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How bad is this alignment and what should it be?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by jamiec, May 1, 2017.

  1. May 1, 2017 at 10:09 AM
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    jamiec

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    I have a 2" lift front and rear and I've had my truck at the alignment shop that specializes in lifted vehicles. They cannot get it right.

    This is what he came up with after the 3rd attempt to correct the truck from pulling to the right. It isn't a hard pull by any means but it didn't do it before I lifted it and even after the lift with a messed up alignment.

    What I have noticed, their are 4 alignment cams on each a arm. The only ones he adjusted were the the on the rear of the a arm. The front ones are still in the same location that I put them in after I put on the lift. I know this because I marked all of them with a white paint marker. I'm thinking he didn't feel like removing the front skid plate to gain access to the front so he just left it.

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  2. May 1, 2017 at 10:12 AM
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    doorsidedown

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    Caster looks a bit low for a 2" lift. Are your UCAs stock? Is it still pulling?
     
  3. May 1, 2017 at 10:15 AM
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    jamiec

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    Stock uca and still pulls slightly
     
  4. May 1, 2017 at 10:49 AM
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    Ideal caster is around 2.7-3.2 degrees. The reason you are pulling is because your caster is off by over .5 degrees. On these trucks, even being off by .2 degrees there will be slight drifting. Your stock UCA is the limiter here. I hate to say it but you may have to change them out regardless, if he didn't touch your fronts then you may still have additional adjustment there, however.

    Overall, it's not a horrible alignment. I've seen worse, but it definitely could use some improving.
     
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  5. May 1, 2017 at 10:59 AM
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    Thanks for the reply. Which one is caster, the one with the wheel?
    When I left the shop the guy just told me their machine is junk and it gives different numbers every time! I may have to go somewhere else
     
  6. May 1, 2017 at 12:27 PM
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    That is not actually as uncommon as you think. A lot of machines are miscalibrated through no fault of the shop their own. The caster one is the the highest one which indicates 1.55 and 2.18.
     
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  7. May 1, 2017 at 2:48 PM
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    So what are all the exact numbers I should have? I'm clueless when it comes to alignment numbers and I have been searching but can't seem to find what I'm looking for.
     
  8. May 1, 2017 at 3:50 PM
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    You're going to want
    0 camber
    2.5-3 caster
    0 toe

    But you're not going to be able to get that due to having stock UCA's.
    .5 camber
    2 caster
    0 toe is what you should/could have wit your current setup or very close to it.
     
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  9. May 1, 2017 at 4:01 PM
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    Thanks.

    I'm going back in the morning and I'm going to demand that he does similar numbers or give my money back.
     
  10. May 1, 2017 at 4:04 PM
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    If his machine is junk and gives inaccurate measurements I'm not sure how much they're going to be able to help you.
     
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  11. May 1, 2017 at 4:11 PM
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    Im lifted 2.5 in the front and 1.5 in the back with 295 75 16's with JBA uca's. im at
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    no pulling what so ever but with the JBA control arms i have lots of adjustability in the alignment.
     
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    Ouch, that caster is scary low! But take it to another shop with a consistent machine before purchasing UCA's. You should be able to get above 2.0 caster on stock UCA's with a 2" lift. The hit or miss area on needing UCA's is 2.5" of lift.
     
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