Rear differential recall.

I'm excited

 

Toyota opinion on 3rd gens

 

GM lost it's way starting in the mid 1970's. Arrogance,greed,bloated overpaid management and manufacturing complete junk by the late 1970's.

They brought it on themselves and should have been allowed to fail back in 2008.The GM /Chrysler bailout was a total disgrace to American free market capitalism.

Toyota seems to be heading down the same path.

 

Likely. People are dumbing down as well. So shit assed industries have plenty of customers.

 

the thing is, Toyota does so much good, it will be a long time before it could ever crapulate down to GM/Chrysler level

lots of engine bay design, wire loom design, switches, components,
small motors..connectors, mechanical stuff, is smartly designed and last forever trouble-free. so, even with these issues
which lots of new models have...the majority of the vehicle is still good old 'Toyota reliable'

 

We hope. We will know better in about 7 years.

 

This place is nuts.
A few loose bolts and a different tranny design that engineered to be fuel efficient and Toyotas going down the tubes.
The trucks fine, the recall is NBD, and I'm confident the squishy tranny will get worked out. Otherwise, the truck has the creaks and rattles of a truck but otherwise strong and fine.

 

Well actually it is becoming more apparent that the nuts aren't loose, they are not to hardness specs thus the leaks.

I think the reason for the craziness, people have dropped a lot of money on what is supposed to be the King of all mid size trucks, the most reliable, etc. Toyota built of a huge expectation of reliability, quality and customer support. It has been the complete opposite of that with this 3rd Gen.

I hear many say all manufactures have recalls. That is lowering your expectations and accepting poor quality.

Yes there can be a bunch of overreaction here but we need that to keep these companies who gladly take our hard earned money. The 2nd Gen recall would have never happened unless the guy who started it had the balls to take Toyota on.

 

Dude- first gens had frames that rusted out and were replaced under recall. Now that's something to worry about.

 

I first saw the issue on the news, toyota said it would probably be early to mid june before the recall is actually out. Who knows when they will actually the fix out, took over 4 months to get the parts in to fix my daughters Yaris. Where is the rear end leaking, assuming it is from the shaft seals?

 

Absolutely agreed.

 

I can't agree with this at all. And passing a known problem, especially a potential safety issue??? Ethics and integrity wouldn't let me. Fortunately, there's some new regulations regarding dealers (& car rental companies etc) passing crap to buyers, even as used. These type of statements make it obvious why regulators acted on the subject.

If they didn't already, I'd hit that bitch with some degreaser to clean it up and monitor it to see if the leak issue is actually resolved.

BINGO! Glad someone talking about actually read the dealer notice. Typical corporate crap, CSR have the PR script which is different than what legal approved for those effected.

Do you think there's any risk at all of possible failure? I mean catastrophic failure is already documented prior to TM taking any action. I'm not sure I'd be down with my diff locking while I'm driving OR really even taking it on a longer road trip with known issue regardless of what date the dealers will be prepared to accomplish the repair. I sure don't fault guys wanting to get the vehicles repaired ASAP.

 

this is the same procedure that has been in effect from Toyota motor corp for ages, they evaluate the situation, come up with a resolution,send out notices, people set up appointments for repairs, and in a orderly manner fix it. personally there is a little hysteria being exhibited about this here. if it so happpens that the rear explodes on a trip(doubt it) then do whats necessary to get it in for warranty repairs, other than that follow the recall procedures as prescribed by the manufacturer until then. coming up with hypotheticals you can go on forever and drive yourself insane with, lifes short.or go buy a Chevy if you think this is so bad. let the flames begin.

 

Couldn't agree more honestly. The best thing to do would be to follow the procedure that's outlined by Toyota. My 2016 TRD OR is seeping somewhat, I will keep an eye on it (and the garage floor) to make sure it doesn't get worse. In the meantime I will await letters to go out. If my VIN doesn't show on the recall, then once I hear that fixes are available and being done I will take my truck in for warranty repair on the differential.

And just in case there is someone out there reading this thread who has yet to get their Tacoma: I love mine, haven't had one issue with it until this small seeping on the differential and I have 22k on the truck as of now. Don't let the hysteria and hype behind this issue deter you from purchasing a Tacoma.

 

My paycheck used to come from Toyota & I'm familiar with how a recall procedure works.

While I agree, in all likelihood the trucks will be repaired without issue (at least for the vast majority) I definitely understand the desire of NOT having a rear end lock up, especially at highway speed. It's not just about stopping the drip in my garage, it's more about not getting anyone killed or hurt by knowingly driving a defective vehicle to me...being stranded is a distant secondary concern.

Buy a chevy? What does that have to do with it? If I wanted one I would. But since you bring it up, just remember a lot of people moved to Toyota because of its bulletproof reputation. In the end (& I'm not talking about next week), if reliability is the same as a domestic, in my mind, why not buy a chevy? I still believe, long term, the Tacoma will retake the top spot in midsize reliability but, if it doesn't, then I (and some others I'm sure) will be looking at other options. Again, only saying that because you mention it.

 

This is the best point... we dropped lots of money on what what supposed to be the best on the market and we have issues w/ trying to get issues fixed. I supplied Toyota for years... they always demand the best from their suppliers, so please forgive me for actually wanting that same performance from them. If you had to deal w/ going through a full PPAP process on a Toyota component, you'd understand why I'm frustrated that I can't get my truck even evaluated honestly from their dealership. I can see there's an issue and was told, "Your truck is 110% fine." Yes, I'm probably overreacting and driving myself insane for no major reason, but I hope in some small way that the issues I'm having will help some other poor schmuck have some ammunition to get their truck fixed.

Without the folks on here ranting about the transmission issues, I'd never have pushed to get mine correctly inspected and would never know I was 2 quarts low (out of like 5-6 total) on transmission fluid. I appreciate the folks ranting and raving... I read what I want and take from it the bits and pieces of info that are important to me.

Ok... I'm off my soapbox...

 

basically Joe enjoy life with the Tacoma or don't enjoy life with the Tacoma>you choose your own, I choose to enjoy life with mine, whatever your choice is I wish you the best

 

Same man. I have zero stress in my life. I only quoted & responded to you because you said people were "crazy" (your exact word) taking their trucks in early and letting TM hold their rides. My only intent in responding was to say hey I understand if you're concerned & wanting it repaired ASAP, that concern doesn't make you "crazy".

 

Very well spoken, and I agree wholeheartedly.

 

Well Joe, you got me wrong, just like Dirty Harry, this is what I said:
" its normal for most of the drivers out there to have stains" Emphesis on "drivers"?? roflmao!!

Hey, I j/k ok, you got it bud.

But seriously though, in spite of anyone's heart felt well intentions wishes or opinions, I stand by what I know to be true and said, because that's the way it is out there in the real world, whether we like it or not no harm will come from a stain. To state otherwise is being melodramatic

Do I like it? No, I don't but read what I said, these trucks are almost at the end of their 2 year "free" care and inspection, and if you read some of the post here, you'll see some seeping from new out the door. A leak, is a fresh droplet(s), you HAVE to worry and handle it now.

Do I fault the drivers for being worried or upset? No, I wouldn't like it either which is why I don't rely on a "free" inspection, I get down and dirty with all my chit. And mine is NOT seeping.

Moreover, seeping can also be caused by a bad or defective diff breather valve, which will probably not be replaced under the recall for safety's sake.
Or in case of the infamous "breather mod" a clogged or kinked hose, which why I would never do such a mod as water can also get in thru the (3) diff seals.

But nuff said, hope that helps all understand the issue better.
Cheers!