1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Any Recommendations on Slotted Rotors?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by shanekss415, Apr 8, 2017.

  1. Jun 1, 2017 at 10:33 AM
    #41
    09BlueBeast

    09BlueBeast Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2014
    Member:
    #141258
    Messages:
    988
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Cody
    Denver
    Vehicle:
    09 Speedway Blue TRD Sport 4x4
    Never said I was, but it's easy to warp rotors when you drive up the mountains 60 times a year. The vents help with heat
     
  2. Jun 1, 2017 at 10:51 AM
    #42
    FPpanchhh

    FPpanchhh Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2015
    Member:
    #168021
    Messages:
    196
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Francisco
    Los baños CA
    Vehicle:
    2005 Tacoma RC
    King coilovers, all pro leafs, bilstein 5160
    I'm running ebc slotted rotor, ebc green pads and stoptech brake lines. Feels 10x better than before with hawks and stock rotors

    IMG_1896.jpg
     
  3. Jun 1, 2017 at 10:53 AM
    #43
    taco2010trd

    taco2010trd Cyber Bully

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2012
    Member:
    #76977
    Messages:
    2,367
    Gender:
    Male
    Tampa, Florida
    Vehicle:
    2010 Silver TRD OR DCSB
    Can you give me a little insight on your experience with Hawk pads? Thank you
     
  4. Jun 1, 2017 at 10:58 AM
    #44
    FPpanchhh

    FPpanchhh Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2015
    Member:
    #168021
    Messages:
    196
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Francisco
    Los baños CA
    Vehicle:
    2005 Tacoma RC
    King coilovers, all pro leafs, bilstein 5160
    They made a pretty big difference over stock. Released a lot of brake dust, but I have heard mixed reviews about them. Never had any issues but it may have been that I have a regular cab so i didn't have all the extra weight. Originally I went with the hawks because I ran them in my DSM and was very impressed. but having both pads I would definitely go with the ebc's
     
    taco2010trd likes this.
  5. Jun 1, 2017 at 1:11 PM
    #45
    Pugzly29

    Pugzly29 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Member:
    #216476
    Messages:
    21
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2008
    have you though about doing a tundra rotor and caliper swap.
     
  6. Jun 1, 2017 at 4:34 PM
    #46
    dawgrules

    dawgrules Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2012
    Member:
    #82925
    Messages:
    33
    Gender:
    Male
    Nope. Not with the kind of pads used on street vehicles. Any "advantage" is in your mind. sorry science guy.
     
  7. Jun 1, 2017 at 4:41 PM
    #47
    SilverBullet19

    SilverBullet19 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2015
    Member:
    #150775
    Messages:
    1,113
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Scott
    Sacramento County
    Vehicle:
    2015 DCLB Prerunner TRD Sport
    Braking performance, in this situation, is more of about brake fade. Drilled and slotted rotors do very little in this situation, they'll heat up just as much as stock. They may take very slightly longer to do so, but the end result will be the same. Slotted rotors also wear pads faster. A performance increase would be the result of a big brake kit, with larger rotors, dissipating heat more efficiently, and allowing the pads to continue their bite.

    Not uncommon in sports cars. Many driver's swap to big brake kits, and don't spring for slotted/drilled rotors at all. The improvement from the larger pads and rotors alone is so extreme, there's no need for specialty rotors.

    this.
     
  8. Jun 1, 2017 at 5:45 PM
    #48
    09BlueBeast

    09BlueBeast Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2014
    Member:
    #141258
    Messages:
    988
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Cody
    Denver
    Vehicle:
    09 Speedway Blue TRD Sport 4x4
  9. Jun 1, 2017 at 5:47 PM
    #49
    09BlueBeast

    09BlueBeast Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2014
    Member:
    #141258
    Messages:
    988
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Cody
    Denver
    Vehicle:
    09 Speedway Blue TRD Sport 4x4
    I'm referring to the heat between the surfaces... when there is more heat then there is more gas... more gas = less contact area between pad and rotor. The slots are to vent out the gas to keep the surface area as clean as possible
     
    lynyrd3 likes this.
  10. Jun 1, 2017 at 5:57 PM
    #50
    TacoJova

    TacoJova Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2016
    Member:
    #177914
    Messages:
    1,662
    Gender:
    Male
    Central Oregon
    Vehicle:
    21 Ram TRX Sold 2015 White DCSB Offroad
    Supercharger Hybrid audio stage 3 and stage 2 rear with 2 image Dynamics IDQ10's and alpine amps Bilstein 5100 with OME 887 Dakars and Icon 2.0 in the rear URD SPEC U Headers URD Y Pipe Borla muffler 18" Magnaflow Resonator Morimoto fogs
    Who do you go through to buy some?
     
  11. Jun 1, 2017 at 6:15 PM
    #51
    SilverBullet19

    SilverBullet19 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2015
    Member:
    #150775
    Messages:
    1,113
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Scott
    Sacramento County
    Vehicle:
    2015 DCLB Prerunner TRD Sport
    yes, they tend to keep a rotor cleaner. As I said though, they don't combat brake fade in a big way, which is what one would experience on downhill driving with heavy braking. It may improve bite and feel, but not as much fade. I have slotted rotors on the GTO. Initial bite is amazing, but it didn't improve stopping distance or combat fade, which is rare for a street car to experience much of anyway. I only had brake fade once, on a very spirited canyon drive.

    To each their own though. If you like them, that's what matters. If the mountain passes are an issue, a big brake kit would be much more ideal.
     
  12. Jun 1, 2017 at 6:34 PM
    #52
    80schild

    80schild Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2017
    Member:
    #217412
    Messages:
    623
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Chad
    Flori-Bama
    Vehicle:
    2007 TRD Sport Access Cab
    No idea what kind of slotted and dimpled rotors are on my Tacoma since the previous owner installed them, but they seem okay, nothing special. After washing the wheels though I must drive down the road to dry everything out, or else they'll make all kinds of noise due to surface rust.

    I did put some on my Tundra a few years ago though and for some reason they made the pads grind like crazy, I ended up taking them back off.

    IMG_0384.jpg
     
    Last edited: Jun 1, 2017
  13. Jun 1, 2017 at 7:22 PM
    #53
    dawgrules

    dawgrules Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2012
    Member:
    #82925
    Messages:
    33
    Gender:
    Male

    I'm guessing 8 of the 10x improvement you feel is from the brake lines
     
    SilverBullet19 likes this.
  14. Jun 1, 2017 at 7:41 PM
    #54
    FPpanchhh

    FPpanchhh Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2015
    Member:
    #168021
    Messages:
    196
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Francisco
    Los baños CA
    Vehicle:
    2005 Tacoma RC
    King coilovers, all pro leafs, bilstein 5160
    Lol most likely
     
    dawgrules likes this.
  15. Jun 1, 2017 at 8:23 PM
    #55
    Crmans

    Crmans New Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2017
    Member:
    #220045
    Messages:
    2
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2013 Tacoma TRD sport
    I see alot of back and forth on here about stock vs. slotted+/ cross drilled. I live in a mountain area so you either use your brakes alot on the steep grades or down shift. Steady braking on the grades causes alot of heat and leads to warp. So it's pretty simple you go with slotted+/cross drilled because they vent gas better allowing them to run cooler. My taco will have them very soon.
     
    lynyrd3 likes this.
  16. Jun 1, 2017 at 8:58 PM
    #56
    LePetomane

    LePetomane Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Member:
    #113834
    Messages:
    36
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rick
    Spokane WA.
    Vehicle:
    08 Sport 4X4
    Well, I have found this discussion both very enlightening, entertaining, and informative. I have just a little problem with buying Chinese Stop tech rotors, bought Chinese rotors before for a different vehicle, very bad experience, so as the saying goes "once burned, twice shy". My 05 4Runner is a road warrior, and is called on to tow a 4,000 lbs trailer from time to time, but only has 37k on the ODO. Toyota stock rotors and calipers are known to cause trouble, usually with stress cracking and warping. A Toyota mechanic I have spoken with, says they don't cool very well, at any rate I have had 3 Toyotas that have all had issues with rotors and calipers. The Calipers don't like heat or sitting with road salts on them from winter driving. I have been able to free the sticking calipers by pulling them off and working the pistons in and out, which has bought me some extra time. Buying rebuilt stock calipers has not been a great experience for me, as they just do the same thing. I have a friend who put a good set of aftermarket calipers on, and his troubles ended then and there. Resurfacing stock rotors is just a total waste of money, as has been aptly discussed on this post, you just end up creating an imbalance in the thickness of the rotor, and they will warp even faster. The stock rotors do not cool very well, and will glaze over really fast, even proper bedding of them does not seem to make much difference.
    I live in Spokane Washington, and there are lots of hills here, not only do my rotors warp and glaze, but they crack, and turning cracked rotors is "really" a waste. So, for now, I will "massage" my caliper pistons, and look at the Power Stop rotors. I have had really good luck with Wagner quiet stop ceramic pads, but will look at the Hawk pads as well. I will put on new calipers on the 4Runner one day, hopefully sooner than later, does anyone know which are the best ones for the 05 4Runners? I would really like to improve my towing stopping distance, and reduce brake fade in the process. And how large a rotor can I put on that will fit the stock calipers that are on the vehicle presently? Thanks for the advice...
    Rick
     
  17. Jun 1, 2017 at 10:29 PM
    #57
    09BlueBeast

    09BlueBeast Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2014
    Member:
    #141258
    Messages:
    988
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Cody
    Denver
    Vehicle:
    09 Speedway Blue TRD Sport 4x4
    I put 120 on stock pads and rotors... been happy with my hps hawk pads and stoptech slotted rotors
     
    lynyrd3 likes this.
  18. Jun 2, 2017 at 8:01 AM
    #58
    andrew61987

    andrew61987 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2015
    Member:
    #156610
    Messages:
    1,283
    Vehicle:
    2008 Access Cab 4WD, 2.7L 5 speed
    As far as I know this is old wisdom, and modern brake pads do not offgas like they did decades ago. Sorry no source.

    How do you know this supposed "increased venting" outweighs the decrease in mass on the rotor? A less massive rotor, which is what you get when you drill and slot, will heat up faster for the same amount of stopping energy absorbed. Stock rotors are already vented anyway, I'm not buying that little holes increase the cooling ability appreciably.
     
  19. Jun 2, 2017 at 9:26 AM
    #59
    09BlueBeast

    09BlueBeast Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2014
    Member:
    #141258
    Messages:
    988
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Cody
    Denver
    Vehicle:
    09 Speedway Blue TRD Sport 4x4
    So using your same concept, if the rotor has more mass and less places air can cool it, it will then hold the heat longer. Granted it will take longer to heat up, however it also will hold the heat longer
     
  20. Jun 2, 2017 at 9:39 AM
    #60
    09BlueBeast

    09BlueBeast Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2014
    Member:
    #141258
    Messages:
    988
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Cody
    Denver
    Vehicle:
    09 Speedway Blue TRD Sport 4x4
    IMG_4589.jpg IMG_4590.jpg
    Dude you guys have some seriously fucked of theory's on how brakes work... when you heat up pretty much any element to the point of it essentially evaporating you're going to get a gas as at very least a by product. This is what happens when you are using your brakes for pretty much anything over a casual stop at the light. This is why it is beneficial to run a slotted rotor. U keep gas, dirt, and other contaminants off the contact surfaces of the rotor and pad.
     
    SC2SC likes this.
To Top