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Coilovers from a 2014 on my 96 Tacoma??

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Vosscop1, Jun 1, 2017.

  1. Jun 1, 2017 at 5:35 PM
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    I'm new and this is my first post. If this already has a thread somewhere, let me know. I have ran across a hell of a deal on a factory set of coilovers and rear shocks(Bilstein) off a 2014 trd off road package. I would like to put them on my 96. Are the fronts gonna mount up without fabrication? If not, is it gonna be worth fooling with? I already know the rears have a different top mount. I should be able to fabricate a bracket for those fairly easy though. Thanks in advance for any advice.
     
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    Welcome to TW. I'm still pretty wet behind the ears on these trucks, but I'm 99% certain that the new coilovers are different and therefore won't be worth trying to make them work.
     
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    No. The front nor the rear will work as a direct replacement.
     
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    Will they fit with modification?
     
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    I plan to put about 3" of lift on it. Does that maje a difference? I dont mind doing a little modification to make it work.
     
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    I'm not sure, these questions are out of my league. All I can say is; they're not interchangeable.
     
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    Im not trying to be a dickhead. Simply asking. What is the reason they wont interchange?
     
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    I think rear shocks are eye/stem style, the first gen is eye/eye. So you would have to fab completely new upper mounts for the shocks.

    As for the front, I believe the 3rd gen suspension is simply too long/tall dimensionally to work in a first gen, even if you did redrill/tap the stud holes to work for the Tacoma top coilover mounting plate, which I would assume are not a match.
     
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    That was kind of my reason for buying them. I wont pick them up til tomorrow so i dont know all the demensions but that was kind of my way of getting around buying new lift coils. Fabbing the rear mounts wont be an issue.
     
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    I asked the same question. The valving, mounting, and everything that would make it function is completely different. Even if you did modify it to fit your truck, it wouldn't function correctly. I wouldn't bother, it's not worth it.

    TL;DR - Valving. Valving will be your demise.
     
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    If you got a good deal on them you could flip them for profit assuming they're in good shape, lots of people on here with 2nd gens. That's about the best you can do with them.
     
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    You sure about that?

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    Bart, that was more what I was asking. I guess I should have worded it differently. I can fab it and make anything fit. Thanks.

    I haven't bought them yet. I'm not even supposed to meet the guy til tomorrow.
     
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    That's the thing. Even if you got it to fit, the valving would be all wrong.

    You would be putting suspension tuned, valved, and designed for a mid-size truck into a compact truck.
     
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    Spring rate and valving are for a heavier front end. Not to mention the fact that you'll be more than at the end of your suspensions travel just trying to stuff them in there.
     
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    Yeah, I can build damn near anything but shock valving and the like is something ive never studied up on. Thanks for the advice.
     
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    The valving is what would kill you. The average curb weight of a 2014 Tacoma is around 4,000 pounds, while your average 1996 Tacoma is 3,000 pounds. These shocks are designed for a bigger and heavier truck.
     
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    So, basically, even if I did stuff them in there, it would beat me to death?
     
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    Yes, the springs are too forceful for a truck without much more weight. On top of that you'd have zero downtravel left so every bump would be jarring.
     
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    Ok, thanks. I already have spacers in there and my plan was to lift it a touch more and soften it up a little. I was originally thinking about bigger spacers and control arms before i ran across those.
     

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