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2017 surging and rpm issues TRD off road

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Meltrap, Jun 21, 2017.

  1. Jun 21, 2017 at 2:38 PM
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    Meltrap

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    I now feel that after reading some of the posts on this site we're not crazy, with our undesirable sounds that are brand-new 2017 TRD off-road is making. Not to mention when you're backing up and if you're not covering the brake you could basically run over somebody with the jumping around of the RPMs and the surging. Besides myself, has anyone actually had their truck into the garage where it was looked at? And if so, have they done anything is there a fix for this issue?
     
  2. Jun 21, 2017 at 4:57 PM
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    Tagged for interest. Mine surges too. If I'm in a drive-thru line or backing into the garage it will do it periodically.
     
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  3. Jun 21, 2017 at 5:54 PM
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    So is there a fix for this ? as far as we're concerned, this is an undesirable characteristics of the Tacoma. I'm assuming it's something that we're going to have to adjust to. We also have a 2017 tundra it does nothing out of this sorts .
     
  4. Jun 21, 2017 at 6:00 PM
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    My 17 Sport also does this. I am taking it in for 1st oil change in 2ish weeks and having them diagnos it. I'll report my finding once Toyota tells me what's up.
     
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  5. Jun 21, 2017 at 6:56 PM
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    I think it is either the AC compressor kicking on which kicks the RPMs up or if you turn the wheel at all while backing up the power steering also increases the RPMS.
     
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    I actually called Corporate today . They assigned me a case number and are supposed to call me tomorrow . This is a brand new automobile was 38,000 and only 2 weeks old , it should not be making these noises . Of course the car dealership when we purchased our truck said that they couldn't find anything wrong with it of course you know how that goes .
     
  7. Jun 21, 2017 at 6:59 PM
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    No it does it when ac off too.
     
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  8. Jun 22, 2017 at 8:43 AM
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    I just got off the phone with Toyota corporate, my husband and I spoke to a engineer. She said she's getting a lot of complaints about the RPMs and the way the truck is surging. Unfortunately it's a characteristics of the new truck, they are working on a flash for it which hopefully will fix the problem in the near future.
     
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  9. Jun 22, 2017 at 10:43 AM
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    So does it really impact anything or you just don't like how it sounds?
     
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    Yes it totally impacts the way you drive, we are used to driving smooth automobiles that don't jump around. When we back out of our garage the RPMs race up and down and makes the truck jump out of control. If you happen to be in the drive up window in your trying to go slow up behind the person in front of you good luck with that because it'll just jump and you can hit somebody. This is not favorable driving conditions for us. Hopefully they'll come io with a fixed but they are well aware of it
     
  11. Jun 23, 2017 at 6:16 AM
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    All the 3rd gens do it ...my dealer Fred Beans Toyota NJ, checked it out and was also concerned about it but, being unable to fix the "built in" problem, signed off on it by saying that the vehicle is operating as designed. This seems to be a standard response to the numerous problems with the Atkinson Cycle engines in the 3rd gens...make no mistake though, what this is, is unintended acceleration and sooner or later injuries and accidents will follow if they haven't already...go on record with your dealer, you may need the documentation down the road...
     
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  12. Jun 23, 2017 at 6:44 AM
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    I would check the air intake clamps, you need a 10mm socket and see if its tight. Some members here have reported them to be loose on another thread, finger tight loose. The second one is under the engine cover, you simply lift the plastic up to gain access. Enough unfiltered air can bypass the filter to cause issues were the ecm compensates enough to not set off the light.
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    It's not likely they will check those at the stealership its probably not even part of the diagnostic procedure, and it's so simple, even a caveman could do it.

    Good luck!
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    After talking to Toyota corporate yesterday it seems to me that they're trying to come up with a fix, I totally agree with you it's an accident waiting to happen ! It's so bothersome it's my son's brand-new truck that he hasn't taken it yet to work and he's already had it for two weeks that's how bothersome it is very disheartening when you spend and $38,000 for an automobile. I personally think that everybody should call Toyota corporate and talk to them and push the issue so hopefully we get a fix for this .
     
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    My 2nd gen did this exact thing for several years. I havent noticed it for a while now, but it used to lurch me forward at a stop light if i wasnt clamping the brakes with a lot of force.
     
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    Is this something again, that only seems to be happening with the Automatics? I have never had this happen to me, with my Manual Trany Trd.
     
  16. Jun 23, 2017 at 7:33 AM
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    My concern is it accelerating when you don't want it to .. could possible cause an accident . Very sorry we purchased a 2017 Tacoma .
     
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    You're kidding right? Of course this wouldn't bother a manual, not unless you are constantly riding your clutch at a stop light and have 1 foot on the brake.
     
  18. Jun 23, 2017 at 8:43 AM
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    No I am not kidding. I just wanted to know if this was a transmission issue or an engine issue. And you answered my question. Thankyou. I've been driving for 48 years and in all that time never owned or had to put up with a slushbucket's quirks. Always been a good ole reliable Manual Tranny for me.
     
  19. Jun 23, 2017 at 8:53 AM
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    Mine surges, associated with temperature issues usually in AM (nice, I like the extra power) or cycling AC on and off. What the surges tell me is that there is WAY more power inside that engine that we just can't get to!! I once spun a rear tire on the on-ramp to a freeway when it kicked down a gear! That is what I want at my command!
     
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    I have over 30K miles on my 2016 TRD OR automatic and it just started doing this recently. Definitely more rpm surge and unpredictable compared to normal AC cycling or cold fast idle variation. I was wondering if it's an early sign of imminent CPS failure. But I'll also check the intake clamps.
     

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