Pathetic low end torque

It could be these ppl who said "this truck does nothing" are having issues, maybe have faulty cps, or loose air intake clamps come to mind. Or maybe they just ran one or two tanks?

But regardless, it makes sense to me as Lexus recommends premium on this & other of their engines and yet some ppl run regular to save money.

I for one I'll stick with regular it works great for me, but then I have no issues.

Cheers!

 

Me too. The reason people say it does nothing and it's a waste is:
It takes a while and increases gradually over time, so you don't feel that instant improvement. And again you only get 10-15 hp at the end so again, no biggie. And if you out 87 in it it will revert.

To the old who doesn't understand - read that link I posted. It explains the process much better than I can.

 

I suppose there may also be some that test drove it and it ran great and proceeded to lift and put on humongous tires withou regearing and now think something went wrong?
Idk but i suppose that not everyone that does modifing in this forum may fully understand all the ramifications like the pro aficionados who do

Just a thought
Cheers!

 

Most that post here have no idea of simple physics. They want it all, and they want it now lol.

 

Exactly. That little 3.5 6 Cyl. in a 7/8 size of a full size pick up is lugging around too much weight for it's size..The Ivy League engineers at Toyota made the body bigger with a lot of shiny plastic but gutted the quality of the core components for the U.S. market.

 

Biggest set back with his power train is the software... my 3rd gen pulls way harder than my 2nd gen did. Just lacks that instant power

 

There's an app for that...


Well a tune anyway. Check it: Orange Virus tuners
https://www.ovtuned.com/collections/lexus/products/toyota-tacoma-2grfks-calibration

And a discount code here on TW

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=cqMlJcNKhHA

 

No they didnt, they're still selling them by the boatload.

If your logic is correct the Tundra would be the sales leader. Toyota wants to sell both so there has to be a distinction between the model; make the Tacoma too much like a Tundra and you eat into Tundra sales. Make the Tacoma smaller and customers would bitch even more because it's much less capable than the competion but costs just as much.

 

Do you have the 4 Cylinder? Serious question, because I have no complaints about the power of this truck.
Sure, it can always be more but thats always going to be true whether you have a Taco or a Tundra or even the Shelby Raptor clocking in at 750 HP... Theres still trophy trucks and monster trucks and the M1 Abrams that have WAY more hp than any of those trucks.
Its not meant to be any of those things, the Tacoma has an extremely specific niche it has developed into where a large portion of the design of the truck is aimed at making it capable offroad while keeping it safe, reliable, and aggressive looking. I feel they accomplished that pretty well, and that if you learn how to drive with this motor and accept that its not a V8 truck, but it still a truck and you just have to rev it up more to get the oomph then its actually really fun to drive.
Not to mention that Toyota actually spent a F***ton of money developing the engine in this truck so that it makes as much power as it does off of less displacement. I wouldnt exactly call that kind of a risk taken on our behalf "gutting the core components"

 

And it's here to stay, my understanding is the drivetrain is going into the next gen 4Runner so as long as you want to stay in this segment, you better start accepting it. If not willing, the good news is there are more brands now entering the market.

Personally I don't care what other people drive and I'm not worried if sales figures drop as more people move to other brands. If they find trucks they prefer to drive then good for them, as long as Toyota makes trucks that I enjoy I'll keep buying them. If the mid size market dries up again you might see them all gone for good and only full size will be available.

 

Gutted the quality of the components? Are we talking about the power output of the engine or the quality of the engine? Those are two different things

 

Neither one is compromised on this powerplant. It's got a forged crank and conrods, as well as an advanced two stage fuel delivery system and all new, proprietary ecu architecture developed specifically for the Toyota and Lexus models receiving this engine. It's pretty freakin technologically advanced, and very well built as we have come to expect from Toyota

 

I'm pretty sure when someone posts something on the internet, they have done all the necessary facts checking and research. The truck is a piece of shit, according to @CheapLaborTJ

 

Actually Toyota of North America has a budget of roughly $1.6 million for all engine R&D created for this market. Split that between the different engines for various Toyotas and Lexus vehicles made here and the cost is per engine is lower.

Toyota saved money by redoing a sedan engine and putting it in the Tacoma.

 

The Tacoma is a good truck. I'm happy mine and realized on the test drive the lack of torque and other issues. But I felt I could deal with them. I have a BMW for sportier, aggressive driving. This is a pickup for god sakes! But it is pretty sad with today's technology that this truck lacks a little too much to be a "great" truck.

 

That applies to all aspects of society now a days .

 

I agree with you that the truck has amazing exterior and interior styling. Toyota did a great job there. But I have to disagree with accepting the power/torque. The actual hp/torque numbers seem decent for the truck on paper, but in reality the low RPM performance is god awful. It says it is a V6, but it seems to perform more like a 4 cylinder. There is a narrow band where the truck actually performs well and it seems to be above 2500 (minimum, I'd almost argue 3000 minimum) and below 5000 RPM (even OVTune has proof that the engine can't breathe above 5k RPM). It is a little odd to have to cruise at 3000 RPM to have any sort of power on demand in a V6 truck. And, if you don't wind out every gear, you are stuck driving in grandpa mode. It is a truck, not a sports car, this engine seems it would be much better served in a FRS type of car. For example, if you shift at 2500 RPM range, ending up at 1.5k-2k RPM in 2nd gear, you are toast. There is hardly any torque available, it is a snail crawl until you get up to ~2500+ RPM (and even then you can feel the jerky non-linearity in the power delivery). Either something is broken on some of our trucks or some goofy choices were made on the design of this engine. And I don't know WHAT GROUP had the bright idea to mess with the fuel injection at ~1500 RPM. That is one of the most annoying results of engine programming I think I have ever experienced. You lose all form of engine braking at ~1500 RPM. It jerks the truck, changes the acceleration rate, happens whether you are on the brake or just coasting, AND happens in 4WD. So there you are 4-lo, navigating down a steep hill when all of the sudden, boom, there is a release and you start accelerating as your RPMs start climbing rather than letting the engine braking keep you at a steady pace. In an offroad centered vehicle I have no idea why they made that decision, you don't want to have to step on the brakes in some situations like that.

If you are happy with your truck, then that is great and that is what matters for you. Me, personally, after a year of ownership as much as I love the styling, I am 99% sure I will be getting rid of it within the next few months. The engine management and other various issues I've had are just deal breakers for me. It is a beautiful looking truck, but I can't justify the $30+k I spent (or am still spending I guess) on it. Maybe it was because it was my first brand new vehicle and I had false expectations, but honestly I'm just going to recoup some money and go back to something simple with a manual transmission and a throttle cable.