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I could see what I got, but if you have any dimensions of the grade 8 hardware I might have some stuff lying around I can put together as I likely wont need them.

 

Which ones were they? I thought most of the guys used the template that @1 Bored Clerk made for everyone a long time back. (awesome of him to make those available to everyone also)

 

yep! I ordered all new hardware from All Pro already! only $10 ($16 shipped)

 

Yeah each slider came with 7 bolts and 6 lined up perfectly with existing holes, but one of them was inaccessible from one side because of where the frame crossmember was.

 

SOS Concepts

 

Was the one for the frame cross member off aligned or is it just impossible to bolt on due to an obstruction?

 

A picture would help out here but I'm at work right now. THe hole lined up fine but the back part was just impossible to reach because it was completed buried within a "T" junction on the frame.

 

You could just drill a hole in the frame at a different location if you desire? My demello sliders actually bolted into the existing crossmember bolt location. Im surprised yours wasn't designed similar.

 

Yeah I'll probably drill it at some point. But the 6 bolts are holding it strong for now. Not like I'm going to actually use my sliders any time soon, well except for destroying other peoples' car doors.

 

meh... 6 bolts.... you should still be able to use your sliders and be just fine...They arent going anywhere

 

Guys please take the 1 minute to assist in the protest of the proposed closing of many trails in Wharton state forest!!!!

1.Copy the text below
2.Click here,http://www.nj.gov/pinelands/home/contact/general_information.shtml to go to the Pinelands Commission comment page
3.Fill out the form, paste the text and modify as you see fit.
4.Click Submit
5.That’s it!

Below is some text that you can use to paste into the comment box and modify if wish. We believe this text reflects the position of a reasonable user of the forest.

I am concerned about the proposed Resolution that is being considered at the upcoming Pinelands Commission meeting on 7/14. While the maps that are being proposed are the USGS Topographical Maps and are widely recognized as the most comprehensive baseline of roads that exist, nonetheless, I see several unresolved concerns regarding this resolution. They are as follows:

In a previous meeting, the Commission discussed consulting the forest stakeholders before proposing the resolution. This stakeholder group includes various outdoor enthusiast groups, environmental groups, and the Pinelands Municipal Council. To our knowledge these groups have not been consulted.

It is not clear how this Resolution would affect events covered by Special Use Permits. Even some of the forest’s seemingly most insignificant roads are actually essential for the safety and successful running of these legal and approved events. Support crews, emergency vehicles and spectators count on these roads in ways it would be difficult for those unfamiliar with the events to contemplate.

It is not clear that this Resolution will have the desired effect. The DEP is solely responsible for enforcing any and all restrictions to motor vehicle access. Since the failure of the 2015 M.A.P. program, the DEP has taken on a more successful approach of enforcement, education and targeted protection projects. It is not clear that this Resolution will improve these efforts and, in fact, may undermine the progress made by the DEP in gaining the support of the stakeholder groups who, for the most part, currently support the DEP’s protection efforts. Further, the DEP has stated they do not need this map to be able to enforce motor vehicle related violations in the forest.

Most importantly, the resolution does not indicate how future changes to the map will be evaluated and adjudicated. The Pinelands Commission clearly does not have the resources to properly assess any kind of significant volume of proposed changes that may come in the future. It is not clear how the stakeholders would be engaged in this process. Further, some groups will undoubtedly view this as an opening to assail current, legal, responsible access, setting up the potential for a continued and protracted battle for access, which will further consume resources that the Pinelands Commission does not have.

I believe that the Pinelands Commission should table this Resolution and consult with the DEP to see what, if anything, the Pinelands Commission can do to help the DEP better protect the forest.

 

I just submitted this to the cause. I deal with this a lot from the mountain bike community and so I understand the pain. I hope that this can come to a positive resolve. Good luck!

 

Thanks much @Coot83

 

"scheduled maintenance"

did we flood the site and break it??? lol

I'll submit as soon as the site is back up!

 

Link works for me... im not sure why it said that for you

 

this is a screenshot:

 

Link took about 5 minutes to load for me. Could of been a hiccup though.

 

where do you need to drill?

 

I'm not sure. It looks like it would be a pain to drill where that last bolt currently lines up. So IF I drill I might shift it forward or backward a few inches for ease of access.

 

Just trying to be somebody when I get out man. All the degrees and certifications I can get while in will help the pocket book when I retire and slide into a decent Gov job.