What's the chatter on the 2018's?

Good point!
I don't have to floor my truck in order to get it moving like some people claim they have too.

 

Whats a "skwp"

 

Scoop

 

oh like skewp...

 

Pickup trucks aren't Toyota's bread and butter. The RAV4, Camry, corolla, and highlander are their top selling vehicles in that order right now. Those are the vehicles they put the most effort in updating. RAV4 sold 41,000 units last month, the Camry sold 33,000 units, the corolla 30,000 units, the highlander sold 19,000 units. The Tacoma is Toyota's 5th best selling model at 17,323 units last month but it's isn't as high volume as the RAV4 and Camry so toyota puts the Tacoma and tundra on lower priority to update overtime.
Toyota is a conservative car company that only invests in cars that they know are going to sell. They study the current market and know compact SUVs like the RAV4 are hot sellers right now.
Also Toyota is probably thinking pickup truck sales aren't going to be good forever when the next rescession hits and gas goes up to $4 a gallon.
Toyota has their vehicle lineup setup with a strong sedan and Medium size SUVs with good gas mileage.
Toyota knows when the market changes when the unemployment rate hits double digits and gas is $5 per gallon these vehicles are still going to sell well while Tacoma and tundra sales are going to plummet no matter how good they are on paper.
That's how Toyota survived 2008-2011 when auto sales were crap and the domestic brands were solely dependent on pickup truck sales that some of them had to be bailed out by the government.
Toyota can make the Tacoma better they just don't want to do it because they aren't dependent on the Tacoma and tundra selling well.

 

I agree. But the price of the Tacoma is going to up when gas goes up to $5 because they think that a mid size pickup gets you better fuel economy... To justify (with hard proof) that the taco has way better fuel economy is not going to happen.

Now that we are talking about the future, I cannot wait for car manufacturers to add solid electric A/C motors (maybe paired with gas/diesel motors to increase the range). They give you instant torque at low end and will push you up to 100 MPH no problem.

https://youtu.be/ib-02b2ooLY?t=202

 

If it was available in AWD i'd have reserved a Tesla 3 all for moving towards alternative energy sources.

 

skinny kid with pimples.

 

Hell, an AWD prius would tear up the competition alone.

 

any word yet on when we will get to order a 18. My dealer has still not called. I was looking at getting a 18 Cement trd off road dbl cb tech and premium jbl. thinking I might go silver instead. I saw a silver today and it looked good. looked at cement trd pro 4 runner and tundra Saturday and I liked them too but not for sure if I don't like silver better!! dang then I see these cool mgm color ones fixed up on here and they are sweet... I cant decide!!crazy I think im going to go silver instead of cement

 

The premium package will come with JBL and leather now standard. Tech package looks to be now an additional package and possible front end collision avoidance and lane departure based on the spy photos of the new grille and emblem. I would go with cement. I had a 16 OR in Silver and now my 17 OR in MGM, MGM I love but it shows scratches and dirt, if Cement had been available I would have been all over it. Let us know when you get to order and price change/increase.

 

I know it is hard to decide. maybe I will because I have had many gray and silver trucks but never a cement

 

notice the Air Force emblem!! I was in Air Force from 81 to 85 and my dad retired from Air Force back in 85 after 22 years. he was a master sgt when retired. Lost him last December and he was the best!!

 

Thank you for your service and your father's.

 

Thank you. Are you in the Air Force?

 

Yep, active duty, 8 years so far.

 

Thank you. Where you stationed? I did 2 yrs at Hickam AFB and 2 years at George AFB.

 

DM in Tucson

 

Well that is nice area for sure.