What's the chatter on the 2018's?

Hardly but could always be worse.

 

yeah. that is true.

 

Sources for that info on packages and grill spy shots ?

 

I think you should order Quicksand

 

I believe I saw those comparison tests as well. The drums must not be that bad. My drums work great while towing, zero issues. I've never felt that the brakes were even close to inadequate.

 

Few pages back in this thread.

Whats the chatter on the 2018's?

 

any other info that can be released, colors etc ?

 

I like the top one a lot. hope it comes on the trd off road

 

Check my post again it has colors at the bottom of the package picture.

The left grille is SR5/Limited update. The right is the TRD update.

 

the one on the left, will be the limited grill, based on chrome trim around fog light. The one on right is sport, will probably be the same as the OR.

 

Correct. The left is the SR5 as well, just will be black instead of the grey like it is now between the two.

 

I think that grill is off of a limited. Look at the wheels of the inferno next to it. It has the sport wheels and then the next pic has a inferno grill.

 

The hood scoop didnt give it away? lol.

 

LOL. I didn't see that. i had the pic partially scrolled off of the screen when I looked at the second pic.

 

Yeah mine does if I stand on the brake.

 

Dealer I've been in contact with told me today they should be able to get allocation information early next week. Not sure if he was referring to Tacomas or Tundras as we've been emailing about both.

I'm still on the fence for which truck and which year model

 

http://www.motortrend.com/news/toyota-tacoma-2016-motor-trend-truck-of-the-year-finalist/
http://www.motortrend.com/news/gmc-canyon-2016-motor-trend-truck-of-the-year-finalist/

This shows the Colorado/Canyon stopping 2 Feet Shorter than the Off Road Tacoma and 9 Feet Shorter than the SR5, and it looks like the weigh about 300-600 Pounds more too.

 

So someone is a bad driver because the engine screams, has no torque and can't break 45 mph on an incline? Or because it takes a country mile to slow it down because the brakes suck? Even the front brakes suck on these trucks.....spongy pedal/rubber lines, don't bite until you floor it, significant fade. You have no idea what you're talking about. You may think they're fine because you use your truck as a mall crawler, but for anyone else, it's a weak point on the truck. Drum brakes.......lol.

 

This is what I had looked at.

Car and Driver 2017 ZR2 vs. Tacoma TRD Pro Braking

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-chevrolet-colorado-zr2-diesel-test-review - Braking, 70-0 mph: 197 ft

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-toyota-tacoma-trd-pro-4x4-automatic-test-review - Braking, 70-0 mph: 180 ft

 

Is it just me, or would that TRD grill look way better with the grill mesh rotated 90°?