Are these Hub centric?

Is there some sort of language barrier or something because again, thats pretty much the reason for Hawekas being "rarely used" in the first place. And how come you ignored the part about calling it lug centric?

 

All techs and shops are your equal?

 

What?! You said it needs to use a haweka because its lug centric. No no no! Are you trolling now or something?

 

I think he's switched to trolling because he's hopelessly wrong. Time to abandon thread.

 

Agreed...
Sorry OP.

 

I just cant sometimes with TW lol

 

You agreed you're hopelessly wrong. Yay.

 

Best.Thread.Ever.

 

Thank you everyone's for the responses, some helpful, others entertaining.

I am aware that the M/T Classic III wheels are lug centric and require special lug nuts. http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/wheels/classic-iii-black/ (see screenshots below) My question was as to the bore being the same size as our hub, (106.1mm) and if it would be a perfect match and therefore make it hub centric, or whether hub centric wheels are cut even more precise to make a perfect fit. The best outcome would be that it is hub centric, as this way it would be perfectly centered through the use of the specific nuts and the hub, and therefore zero vibration or centering issues.

So does hub centric mean that the hub and bore are just the same size, or are specific hub centric wheels cut more precise? Maybe someone from SCS @SCSPerformance can chime in, as they are the experts. (I would love to get the Ray 10's but don't have the funds or the patients to wait indefinitely)

Thank you

 

Again, lug centric just means you're using the lugs with an acorn/conical/ball seat to center the lug within the wheel hole, which applies to 99.9% of aftermarket wheels nowadays as that is the point of the seat of the wheel lug. Only very very old aftermarket wheels and some OEM wheels (like our Toyota OEM wheels) use a flat type washer lug nut which do not center the wheel, but the OEMs match up the hub size to make hubcentric.

Hub centric means the wheel centerbore/hub = the car hub size.

For the sake of discussion, this specific MT Classic wheel WILL be hubcentric to the Toyota trucks as 106.1 = toyota hub bore size.

If say, you took another 6x5.5 truck (Chevy perhaps) which have a smaller hub bore, and you do not use hub centering rings, they will be lug centric because the wheel bore is larger than the hub bore. If you use hub rings, they will be hubcentric.

For all intents and purposes, the common 99.9% are lug centric lugs - you just need to get the correct seat type, so it's nearly redundant to specify lug centric lugs as they "all" do it. "Special" lug nuts are not so special in this case. Like we said, most aftermarket wheels use a conical/acorn seat which is essentially industry standard at this point for aftermarket wheels. You just cannot use your stock washer/flat style lug nuts on these aftermarket wheels. No big deal though, common practice anyway.

 

Thanks for your response. That is what I think as well, just wanted to make sure.

 

OK, so I purchased one of the Mickey Thompsons to see how they would fit onto the hub.





They are just slightly larger than the hub. As you can see in the pictures above. In the last picture I am lifting the wheel to show how it would look sitting flush. See the video below for how much movement there is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXK7IN9F9gU&feature=youtu.be

I did the same thing with the stock wheels, and there is also a little bit of play, but less than there is with these.

Would this cause any vibration on the wheels, or would it be better to go with different wheels?
Do the SCS wheels have any play like this?

Thanks for the help.

 

Anyone?