Firearm BS thread

Sounds like a great day! I love how I feel after a day at the range. Clears my head every time.

 

Except 95% of people will never be in any situation outside of a sport match that requires a transition between a handgun and a long gun.

 

Precisely. Except that the number is probably closer to 99.5%
I can think of exactly zero defensive shootings that I've read about over the last few years where the person defending themselves had to transition from Pistol to a readily-available Rifle halfway through, at speed. And since I don't carry a loaded rifle slung over my shoulder when I go grocery shopping or to Home Depot, practicing a speedy transition won't help me anyway. I'd rather focus my resources on accuracy and speed with drawing, firing, and reloading my CCW than on transitioning to a rifle I won't have on me anyway.

If you feel that your situation requires training for transitions, then I say definitely do it and more power to you. But I'd be hesitant to say that somebody is making a 'mistake' with their training by tailoring it to their lifestyle rather than yours...

 

Well said....

 

One of the firearms instructors (retired FBI agent and Marine of 35 yrs) at the local gun range made it a point to explain this exact thing Train with what ammo and gun you will use for self defense....

Me I train with a full size 1911 either 9mm or .45 and a G19 as that is what I carry 99% of the time.

 

Botach tactical

 

I respect your opinion, but I disagree.

 

I think I may have a new toy coming soon!

 

DONT BUY IT!

 

No problem. That's what the first sentence in the second paragraph was for.

 

Not me !

 

Guys, I had to post this here as this just makes me say what great Vets we have in our Country that had to do some very evil things!

PORTLAND, Ore. – Marvin Strombo was behind Japanese enemy lines on a Pacific island during World War II when he realized the other five men in his squadron had moved on without him.

The young U.S. Marine, part of an elite scout-sniper platoon fighting a 1944 battle on Saipan, nervously scanned the terrain. He spotted a body on the ground, a dead Japanese soldier lying on his left side. The young man looked peaceful, as if asleep, and something white poked out from his jacket.

Strombo knelt and pulled out a silk flag, all the space around the bright red emperor's sun filled with elegant calligraphy. He hesitated, then took the flag and scrambled to reunite with his squadron as they entered the Japanese-held town of Garapan.

More than 70 years later, Strombo is returning the Japanese flag to his fallen enemy's family. The 93-year-old arrives Friday in Tokyo, the first stop in a 10,000-mile (16,000-kilometer) journey into the remote mountainside to bring the keepsake back to the man's home village — back to a brother and two sisters who could never say goodbye.

"I realized there were no bullets or shrapnel wounds, so I knew he was killed by the blast of a mortar," Strombo recalled in Portland, Oregon, this week before boarding a flight to Japan.

Then, quietly: "I think that soldier wanted me to find him for some reason."

The flags were a good-luck charm that linked Japanese soldiers to their loved ones and their call for duty. Some were signed by hundreds of classmates, neighbors and relatives.

Allied troops frequently took them from the bodies of their enemies as souvenirs. They have a deep significance because most Japanese families never learned how their loved ones died and never received remains.

For Strombo, the flag hung in a glass-fronted gun cabinet in his home for years, a topic of conversation for visitors and a curiosity for his four children. He never spoke about his role in the battles of Saipan, Tarawa and Tinian, which chipped away at Japan's control of islands in the Pacific and paved the way for U.S. victory.

He wrote letters to find out more about the flag but eventually put it aside. He knew no Japanese and, in an era before the internet, making any headway was difficult.

Then, in 2012, the son of his former commanding officer contacted him about a book he was writing on the platoon.

Through him, Strombo reached out to the Obon Society, a nonprofit in Oregon that helps U.S. veterans and their descendants return Japanese flags to the families of fallen soldiers.

Within a week, researchers found it belonged to Yasue Sadao by reading the script on the flag. They traced the corporal to a tea-growing village of about 2,400 people in the mountains roughly 200 miles (340 kilometers) west of Tokyo.

The calligraphy turned out to be the signatures of 180 friends and neighbors who saw Yasue off to war in Higashi Shirakawa, including 42 of his relatives. Seven of the original signatories are still alive, including Yasue's 89-year-old brother and two sisters.

When researchers contacted Yasue's brother by phone, he asked if the person who had his brother's flag was the same one who found it so many years ago, said Rex Ziak, who co-founded the Obon Society with his Japanese wife, Keiko.

"There was just silence on the line and then he asked, 'Do you imagine he knows how my brother died and where he died?'" Ziak recounted. "And that's when we realized that this person is very much alive in that family and this mystery of what happened to him is very much alive."

Strombo is the only person who can provide those answers. He can roughly show where he found Yasue's body on the outskirts of Garapan and can tell the siblings that their brother likely died of a concussion from a mortar round.

"I knew he was young because I could see his profile as I bent over him. He was laying on his back, kind of on his left side," he said.

The Obon Society has returned about 125 flags and gets about five inquiries a day from aging soldiers who regret their actions and want to return the flags before they die.

The group believes thousands of similar flags are likely hidden in attics across the U.S. that could give answers to countless other families. Strombo will be the first World War II veteran to return a flag in person to a Japanese family through the Obon Society.

The trip is a journey of forgiveness and closure as he finishes the final chapter of his life.

Only two other men in his platoon of 40 are still alive and he knows the humid islands where he fought for weeks are now a footnote in the war's larger history.

"It got so I kind of wanted to meet the family, you know," he said, his voice growing raspy. "I know it means so much to them."

 

I mean no disrespect with this question, I'm just genuinely curious. In what realistic situation do you feel a person would ever need to or be able to transition from a handgun to a long gun? I just can't think of any situation that would call for that or have a rifle readily accessible.

 

Multiple assailants who don't run away when they realize you're armed and killing them is the only thing that springs to mind.

 

Really none?


Honestly, I understand the probability is LOW, but that does NOT mean it's not a possibility. I could make up a MULTIPLE situations which would take a lot of typing.

First and foremost, I use a suppressed 10.5" AR SBR for home defense, and PERSONALLY, the ONLY time I would EVER use a sidearm or a shotgun for home defense for many reasons. Being able to move from room to room, halls to rooms, rooms to halls, etc in my house with an SBR is a little more difficult than a sidearm yes, but being able to effectively and efficiently move with the weapon in the ready, low ready, etc positions is essential and key. This requires training.

UNFORTUNATELY I cannot customize the worst day of my life. If I am in my home, multiple assailants or not, an AR is far more effective than a pistol, especially under adrenaline.

Now outside of my home, unfortunately I cannot carry an SBR everywhere I go so I leave an AR or SMG pistol in my truck with an armbrace and I also conceal carry a sidearm.
I live in UT where mass shootings are a common thing, but it doesn't stop people from being crazy. I much rather be over prepared than under prepared in ANY situation.

It goes back to a simple fire drill. Most people don't practice fire drills in their house with their kids and family. They simply think "It cannot happen to me" so they don't feel a need to plan. Well not having a plan doesn't bode well with me.

I train because I can, I want to, I love to, and I want to be as prepared as possible in the event something does happen, because again, I cannot customize the worst day of my life.

Its what I do, do you need to do the same? That's your choice. Call me paranoid. Call me crazy. Call me whatever you wish, I do what I do because I want to and I can. Same reason I don't buy a minivan, because I CHOOSE not to.

The more skills, experience, and knowledge a human has, the more power to them. Why not do more, learn more, etc?

 

But when would you ever be in a situation where you would have a rifle within reach?

 

Lol really?

I really wish I knew every situation I would encounter for the rest of my life. It would be like magic!

You comment is your answer. You NEVER know when.

 

In your home, primarily.

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Whoops, late to the party.

 

STOP BEING LATE!!!!