Fumoto Valve and the pimply faced kid

the problem is

1) fumpto valve owners typically do NOT go to the ripoff oil change places

2) when Mr. Monkey gets his hand on it, he won't know WTF to do with it. never seen one before (true story)

a) hey may remove the whole thing and damage it

b) open it, and see oil only dribbles out slow, so may just get a big wrench and pull it, because
time is money ain't got time for a frumpy valve to drain

c) break it reinstalling it

d) use is correctly but not shut it correctly


YOU NEVER KNOW, but will worry your ass about it won't cha ? then you will be getting under
the vehicle after the change and hoping to not see your valve fucked with. even then, is it truly
not fucked with ? it is closed ? has it been removed and reinstalled ? you won't know unless you
got right in the pit with them and watched it.


after all that aggravation you'll either go back to a stock plug, or do it yourself.

 

Sounds like poor planning on your part

 

I have a fumoto valve installed. Sure it may save you a few minutes looking for the socket and keep a little bit of oil off your hand but it's a luxury item as far as I concerned and my next vehicle I will not bother with one.

 

I've heard enough horror stories about grease monkies not being able to operate a standard drain plug properly. I damn sure wouldn't trust them with a "complicated" on/off valve.

The last tire shop I took my wife's 4Runner to started poking around in the engine bay and made a big scene about "safety concerns" and told my wife they hope she can get her kids out of the vehicle before it burns to the ground.
I chewed them a new asshole and let them know they lost my business. Wtf is a tire monkey who was paid to install tires doing poking around in my engine bay?!?(yeah I know, upsell )

Next time I'm disconnecting the hood latch if I haven't bought my own tire machine by then...

 

Amen brother. People will buy anything that saves them two minutes. And for those getting oil all over their hands, please just learn how to change your oil -- it is one of the most basic maintenance items and should be very easy after the first few times. If this task continues to cause you trouble, sell your tools and take the truck to a shop.

I have no personal experience with the quick drain valves but they stick down too far, begging to be sheared off by a wayward 2x6. Plus it's $25 that I don't need to spend.

 

It serves a few more purposes.... will never mistaken the transmission fluid drain plug, never worry about over torquing or under torquing the plug or cross threading it, no mess, and the biggest plus : zero tools needed to do an oil change, ......... ZERO tools to do an oil change...ZERO.... did I mention ZERO tools to do an oil change?

 

I used to be a pimply faced kid but I think I would have figured it out. However, at the risk of being torched by TW's millennials, I must add, I would not trust today's pimply faced kids to work on my truck.

Ask the mechanic if he/she knows what a Fumoto or EZ valve is. If yes, you can trust them to change the oil; if not, move on.

 

Ive said this before. If people are that confused by the difference between an oil pan and a tranny pan, get some red nail polish and paint that tranny drain plug red. A red plug will make you think twice before you remove it.

 

And to the people that don't want to have to use tools, maybe working on your own truck is not for you.

 

This isn't rocket science, it's changing oil.

If what you're saying is true, maybe everyone who changes their cabin air filter, and engine air filter should never work on their truck since neither of those require tools.

 

I swapped my first transmission in my first pos car when I was 14. I've swapped motors and rebuilt motors, head gaskets, built plenty of turbo motors and blown them just to rebuild/swap them with something newer/bigger/badder. I've built plenty of trucks and suspensions and have always worked on my own shit.

Now that I'm done swinging my dick around ...I have a Fumoto valve. It's not because I don't know how to turn a wrench. I'll rip a motor out of a vehicle faster than most mechanics can get their tools setup on a rolling cart.

Sometimes I just like a little convenience in my life.

 

Used those valves for a couple of years now. Never had one leak. Not that I'm concerned about using tools. I just like the convenience. I do both my fj and tacoma at the same time. I run clear hose from the valve on both into a bucket. And open the valve. also use a plastic hose on the oil filter drain line and run it into the same buckets and crack the filters a little. Then I can go sit back , relax and drink a beer while gravity does it's thing and come back when I feel like it and finish it up.
Certainly no plans of going to an oil change place. Besides. I don't think they would even let me drink beer there while I waited.

 

Nothing against those but it just seems a little feminine to me that a man doesn't want to get his hands dirty. Tear anything apart and rebuild it without hesitation but that little valve puts me off for some reason. Drain bolt has no moving parts. Not going to add another moving part.

 

Just like anything there are pros and cons.

 

Damn dude, you got a lot of hate for that remark.

In any event, there are bigger fish to fry when working on our trucks. A little convenience on a constant maintenance item never hurt.

 

It's not that I hate it, it's that I just don't understand it. It's a 14mm drain bolt. Lefty loosy. Easy. No moving parts and it will never fail you. I guess I don't understand the concept of trying to reinvent the wheel.

 

It's not re-inventing the wheel. It's adding a new tool for those that can see the need/convenience of it. I like mine. It makes it a lot easier to drain oil straight into the take-to-walmart container, as oppose to draining into a drain pan and dealing with that mess. I also like to get my oil tested every 50K miles or so; the valve makes it very convenient to collect oil directly into the little medicine sized container. That being said, I would not recommend these valves on sedans as the valve hangs low too much and the risk of it catching on something is too great. And the OEM drain bolt can fail if you tighten it hard or not enough. And I always managed to drop the little bugger into the drain pan.

 

Well said!

 

Heh, First of May.

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