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Simple Tire/Wheel Difference Question

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by KonaKid, Aug 12, 2017.

  1. Aug 12, 2017 at 1:39 PM
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    KonaKid

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    For those of you not sick of answering basic tire/wheel questions from nubes - here's another, please.

    I want new wheels for my brand new 2017 TRD OR DCLB. Want to stay stock, but want to keep my newly installed mud flaps. I live on a long gravel driveway, and little rocks sound like bullets ricocheting off my body after I hit the pavement (also installed side step for same reason).

    But I thought I might as well go with a little bigger tire while I'm at it - knowing I can only upsize a little bit.

    So, after looking at my choices - what are the pros, cons, differences between these two sizes. They seem to be almost identical in the final result. Looks like I could change from the 265/70/16 to either 265/75/16 or 265/70/17.

    And for comparison's sake, let's say the wheel is either the Method 16x8 or the Method 17x8 1/2. Is the bigger rim preferable for clearance? Or is there anything else I should consider between the two other than looks.

    The two "upsized" choices seem almost identical.

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    What's the offset for each rim?
    An offset that results in 'low' backspace will make it poke out more. The further out they poke, the greater the arc of the tire while turning. This is how a lot of rub problems occur.
     
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    I believe the Methods have no offset. But the 16" is 4 1/2 BS and the 17" is 4 3/4 offset. At least I assume that is what 0/4.5 and 0/4.75 means. But I thought with those sizes I wouldn't have any issues with rubbing in any case, since they are such a "mild" upsizing. I guess what I was asking is having to do with - if the overall size of the wheel and tire package is the same, what are the pros and cons of having a larger rim/smaller tire as opposed to smaller rim and larger tire if the overall width and diameter are the same?
     
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    https://www.performanceplustire.com/tech-info/the-pros-and-cons-of-plus-sizing/

    Those will both poke 1" further than stock. That wont do you any favors on the gravel road.
    The tire you want is 1" greater than stock diameter.
    Turn your wheels and see if you can fit a 1"(for poke)x1/2"(for tire radius) block between the outside corner of your tire and fender/mudflap/cab mount area. Not perfect, but it'll give you a good idea. More than likely it will just need some heat massage at the flaps.
     
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    Thanks for the 1" poke info - my flaps cover almost that extra inch - so I thought maybe I could get a little of that "look" and extra width, and still be fairly safe. After performing that "test," and from what I read - both tire and wheel combos I am contemplating will fit (the RokBlokx have a little notch that can be cut out). But if you look at the comparison in my first post, both prospective tire and wheel combos are the same in overall width and diameter. But they are different tire and wheel sizes.

    So my question was more regarding what are the advantages/disadvantages of having a bigger wheel/smaller tire combo - if the overall tire, wheel, and poke package ends up being the same? Is it only a different look, but same performance?
     
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    Did you read the link I posted?
     
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    Nope - missed it entirely - but very helpful and answered my main questions - Thanks
     
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    So - after reading - is this why the Sport has 17" wheels and the OR has 16" wheels - with the same overall tire/wheel combo diameter for both?. If I read correctly this means the 17" Sport would have a little better handling, but a little rougher ride - and the 16" OR will have a stronger/lighter wheel and a little "softer" ride.

    And that would extend to my 1" overall diameter "upsizing" and new wheel size question as well - with the 265/70/17 handling better but "rougher" and the 265/75/16 having a stronger wheel and softer ride.

    And it sounds as if (according to that article) that the larger wheel combo might be the heavier of the two - but I'm not sure in this instance if that would be true. I guess in general - more metal to meet load standards on a bigger wheel is more weight than the extra rubber of a bigger tire?
     
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    Not really a simple question anymore...:D

     
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    Understood. ;) And thanks for helping another nube.

    To carry it one last step further, and bringing it back to simple. What would you do - if wishing to keep stock suspension (hoping to keep mud flaps) and the choice is 265/70/17 on 8.5 wide wheels or 265/75/16 with 8" wide wheels - assuming back spacing and offsets are all dialed in? And only occasional off roading.

    Or is it going to make much difference either way?
     
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    If you aren't planning on going with a wider tire than 265, stick with the 8 inch wide wheels, any wider and the tires start to look stretched
     

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