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Non-political things that make you say...WTF?!?! (Welcome To Florida!) **NOT CV RELATED** NO TALKY!

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  1. Sep 1, 2017 at 10:42 AM
    EPBlueTaco

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    I'm on the side of law enforcement as long as they are following the law as well. This guy was not according to the story. The Supreme Courthas already ruled that in order for law enforcement to draw blood they must have one of two things.
    A warrant or
    Consent
    He had neither. The nurse was doing her job protecting her patient. And upholding the law the detective took an oath to uphold.
    So based on what has been reported, the detective was wrong
     
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  2. Sep 1, 2017 at 10:50 AM
    98tacoma27

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    http://www.slcmayor.com/pressreleas...incident-at-university-of-utah-medical-center

    Statements from Mayor Jackie Biskupski and Salt Lake City Police Department Chief Mike Brown on incident at University of Utah Medical Center
    September 1, 2017


    Mayor Jackie Biskupski:

    “Like many of you, I watched the video of police officers interacting with University of Utah Medical Center nurse Alex Wubbles for the first time through the media late yesterday. What I saw is completely unacceptable to the values of my Administration and of the values of the Salt Lake City Police Department. I extend a personal apology to Ms. Wubbles for what she has been through for simply doing her job.

    There is currently an Internal Affairs investigation examining the actions, and the Civilian Review Board is conducting a parallel investigation. I have reiterated to Chief Brown that I expect the highest level of professionalism and integrity from his team. I have also instructed Chief Brown to conduct a thorough review of all policies and trainings to ensure respect for all individuals, in all situations. Following the incident Salt Lake City Police Department command met with hospital administration. We immediately changed policies that may have been a factor in this encounter, and the officer’s duties have been modified.

    I take these incidences very seriously. Since I took office, I have been working with Salt Lake City Police Department to increase our use of de-escalation techniques and we have had great success, and this incident is a troubling set back to those efforts. No medical professional in Salt Lake City should be hindered from performing their duties, and certainly not be fearful of the police officers they so often partner with to save lives.”

    Chief Mike Brown:

    “I was alarmed by what I saw in the video with our officer and Ms. Wubbles. I am sad at the rift this has caused between law-enforcement and the nurses we work so closely with. I want to be clear, we take this very seriously. Immediate steps were taken and within 12 hours, body cam footage was reviewed and an internal affairs investigation started. We've looked at the actions that took place, the policies that could have prevented it, and the training that must be done. Within 24 hours of this incident, Salt Lake City Police Department took steps to ensure this will never happen again. We met with hospital CEO and COO, Nursing Management Team, their legal representation team, and University of Utah Chief Brophy.

    Most notable of all these conversations were that we apologized for the incident and promised to find a solution. Additionally, our policy management team continues to work closely with the hospital staff on improved policies and training.

    To date, we have suspended the officer from the blood draw program. We have already replaced our blood draw policy with a new policy. All remaining officers on the blood draw program have reviewed, and are operating under the new policy and protocol.

    It is my sincere desire to get back to a very cooperative, respectful, and friendly relationship with our “brothers and sisters in white” we work so closely with. Salt Lake City Police Officers have a very soft spot in our hearts for all medical professionals. We know that if we are ever hurt in the line of duty, it is their caring hands that will perhaps save our lives one day.

    I believe we can learn from mistakes and from building strong relationships with everyone we work with and serve. By doing that we become a stronger police department.”
     
  3. Sep 1, 2017 at 10:54 AM
    Shelf Life

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    Tacomamike mike

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    " according to the story" if everyone are constitutionalist's here what's happening to the officers right to be presumed innocent till proven guilty ?
     
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  5. Sep 1, 2017 at 11:02 AM
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    The video pretty much negates him being innocent.
     
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  7. Sep 1, 2017 at 11:07 AM
    Toyko Joe

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    That officers right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty only applies when he is charged with a crime.

    :sorry::locked:
     
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    Lord Helmet

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    Agreed the Supreme Court already said you can't draw blood without a warrant or consent, even the Chief admitted mistakes in the case and policy.
     
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    Lmao says everyone till they need a cop very sad . I guess I kind of hope they won't be there for the haters. Wrong thinking I know, guess it's my right to think that tho .
     
  12. Sep 1, 2017 at 11:25 AM
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    Noelie84 What Could Possibly Go Wrong?

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    I support police officers whole-heartedly, until they do something illegal.

    FACT: The officer was attempting to violate the law by collecting a blood sample without a warrant.
    FACT: The nurse was protecting the patient's legal and constitutional rights by preventing said collection.
    FACT: The officer arrested her despite that fact that her actions were just and legal and his were not. That could qualify as an Arrest Under False Pretenses.
    FACT: The video of the entire confrontation/altercation is available here:

    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/...lice-video-of-crazy-arrest-by-SL-officer.html

    Watch it, and see if you still side with the officer. His actions in this video are clearly illegal, regardless of what happened beforehand or after. Therefore, I can't support his actions.
     
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    I'd be happy with just a good frisking.
     
  14. Sep 1, 2017 at 11:28 AM
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    Wow with all your " facts " just from a story your a regular Dick Tracy . So why would they waste the time and money on an investigation ? Oh yea we only have rights when we want them! Screw due process !!!
     
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    Noelie84 What Could Possibly Go Wrong?

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    Watch the video. You responded to my post in 3 minutes. The video is 19. You're basing your opinion on even fewer facts than I am, so your opinion has even less validity than it would otherwise. So who's wasting whose time?
     
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    me too :anonymous:
     
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    Some stuff. Not a lot, just some.
    It's based on Constitutional law and the SLC Department's own video so...
     
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    Let's move forward shall we!!!!!!!!!
     

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