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5100 paired with?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by garrettmiklautz, Aug 29, 2017.

  1. Aug 30, 2017 at 5:25 PM
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    libagui

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  2. Aug 30, 2017 at 6:49 PM
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    Best to send Marie an email. I am sure they do ship to Yukon, they have shipped to me in Nova Scotia twice even though there is no button to press on the website. Even after exchange, shipping, and customs, Headstrong is still the best price I can find and the customer service is awesome.
     
  3. Aug 30, 2017 at 7:26 PM
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    No extra weight in the front. although I'm tempted to get a bumper at some point in the future if that means anything.
    I do have a shell, and currently have a progressive leaf pack of some sort in the rear. (I'm the second owner) Just got my firestone ride rites and daystar cradles in the mail today! :)

    I contacted headstrong last night. They replied first thing this morning with a quote for $265 USD shipped out the door. Which in Canadian is like $335. A little more than I wanna spend, but if this is the cheapest i'll find, it is what it is.

    In your guys opinion, is it worth the extra $335 to swap to aftermarket coils vs just sticking a new 5100 back in the stock spring?
    Im still leaning towards it, but if the payoff is marginal, maybe thats money better spent elsewhere.
     
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  4. Aug 30, 2017 at 8:28 PM
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    How do you drive? And how important is the 2.5 inches lift to you? If you add a plate bumper, the stock springs will really sag under the weight. If you get 885 coils, you will probably get the height you want at first, and a slightly stiffer ride (which I like, but you might not). If you think you might add a steel bumper, the 886 coils are stiffer than 885 and will handle the weight of the bumper with less sag than the 885.

    No one but you can really determine whether the money is worth it. In my case, I bought 883 coils because I only wanted 1" lift, now I want 885. Lucky me, I got a set of 885s from a friend.... who doesn't need them anymore because he bought a Pelfreybuilt bumper and had to switch up to 886 to maintain the lift after the added weight. So, the moral of the story for me is that I should have just bought 885 or even 886 springs in the first place.
     
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  5. Aug 30, 2017 at 8:45 PM
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    i hear you. The 885's would be a good choice i think, also there was talk of the 887's.
    Would the 887's with a bumper sag the equivalent to the 885's? one just applies more lift than the other!?
    I assume the 886's are stiffer to accommodate the weight of the bumper.

    My main focus is more on the right spring for my current setup, as i probably won't get a bumper for quite sometime.

    Would u say these coils (885,887) ride stiffer than a preloaded stock coil?
     
  6. Aug 30, 2017 at 8:52 PM
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    I've got my 5100s set at 0 with 885s and a 3/8 top spacer from wheelers off-road on each side.
     
  7. Aug 31, 2017 at 7:30 AM
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    I had AAL's with my shell and the extra 200lbs made it sag and I did not like the way the back of the Taco felt. I put OME Dakar CS047R Leaf Packs on and love them. If you off road and haul weight
    you will love them.
     
  8. Aug 31, 2017 at 7:57 AM
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    Im hoping my updraded leaf pack and firestones/daystars will suit my needs for the rear stance of carrying weight and hauling. (Have yet to install the bags)
     
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  9. Aug 31, 2017 at 4:55 PM
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    I have the 5100s in front with the eibach Toytec 521600 spring. It's a comfortable ride and handles speed bumps and humps in my area well. I like that the longer Spring creates the lift rather than compressing the spring. I first used the stock Spring with the clip in position 3 or 4 and the ride was harsh. With the longer spring and clip at 0 the bumps are smoother.

    Let the spring length create the lift. Not the compression.
     
  10. Aug 31, 2017 at 9:11 PM
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    Thanks. It good to hear everyones impressions and opinion on it. Im still torn on what i wanna do. Ive heard so many mixed reviews on the ride quality between these 'lift coils' vs stock vs 5100's in stock coils.
    My initial thought though was the sAme as what you just said, and figured a coil under no preload would ride better than a preloaded coil!?
     
  11. Sep 1, 2017 at 11:11 PM
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    I installed my 5100's and set them at 2.5 and the truck drove terribly harsh. I quickly purchased the 885's, set the 5100's to 0 and I'm super happy with a plush yet firm ride. The height between the two configurations was very close but ride quality was far superior with aftermarket springs. I purchased the springs from wheelersoffroad.com shipping via UPS.
     
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  12. Sep 2, 2017 at 12:16 AM
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    James, thanks for the info.
    Ive experienced 5100's maxed out with stock coils my last two trucks. (F150 before this)
    And i can certainly say, they dont seem to ride as I expected or would like. Over speed bumps for example.. they seemed awfully stiff and wouldnt absorb the bump but instead take the blow and throw the truck back to its ride height.
    If that makes any sense..Just seems like the recoil or whatever correct term you'd like just isnt there. (At lower speeds anyways)
    At higher speeds i have no complaints.

    So maybe ive answered my own question and its time to try something new and test out the 885's or 887's!
     
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  13. Sep 2, 2017 at 8:19 AM
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    I had my 5100s at 1.75 with stock coils and then swapped to 887 coils and put my 5100s at 0. The ride is much more plush and doesn't beat you on bumps. I do get a bit of nose dive under braking and cornering does give some body roll. When I had my stock coils preloaded the truck stayed flat in the corners and rarely nose dived under braking.
     
  14. Sep 5, 2017 at 2:44 PM
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    Yeah that was my experience over bumps, super stiff. If I wanted a ride like that I'd hop in my M3.

    Yes, you still get dive and body roll but still 10x better than the OEM shocks IMO
     
  15. Sep 12, 2017 at 4:35 PM
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    Thank you so much for the recommendation sorry it took me awhile to get around to thanking you. We were closed last week :D
     
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