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Looking for some OEM suspension part numbers, and some aftermarket equivalents

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by freeriderchad108, Sep 6, 2017.

  1. Sep 6, 2017 at 6:29 AM
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    freeriderchad108

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    Hi All,

    About a month ago I purchased some SumoSprings SSR-610-40
    for my 2016 TRD sport. I tow a boat frequently and wanted to get rid of some of the sag when towing a loaded up boat with coolers in the bed.

    I installed them and immediately regretted putting them on. I was thinking they would act like a bigger bump stop and not effect my daily drive with no boat or gear. The sumo springs compressed about 10%-15% with an empty truck with a 1/4 tank of gas. I was thinking they wouldn't touch the frame unless I had a few hundred pounds on the back.

    The ONLY time I actually appreciated them was when I had my 24' boat fully loaded, a full tank of gas, a bed full of gear, and 4 people in the cab. They behaved how I was hoping they would.

    Summers drawing to a close and I hate these things. I want to take them off but I don't want to re-use my U-Bolts for a 3rd time. I want to put my stock bump stops back on my truck and would rather not suffer from a u-bolt failure on the highway.

    TL;DR: I need new U bolts for my 2016 tacoma. I think it's ridiculous to spend $28-$35 on each bolt (need 4) so I'm looking for an aftermarket equivalent or upgrade.

    OEM part number seems to be 90117-A0005

    Will the OME kit OMEU53A work for an OEM equivalent?

    Any help is appreciated!
     
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  2. Sep 6, 2017 at 7:00 AM
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    Dirty Harry

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    I'm thinking about going with some Sumo's... What gives? Is the unladen ride just too stiff for your liking?
     
  3. Sep 6, 2017 at 7:03 AM
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    bradshawnh

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    I am pretty sure it would work...just need to cut the extra length off the OME parts as they are designed for a thicker spring.

    Smart man for replacing your worn out factory parts!
     
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    They turned the back into a 1 ton axle stiffness and the front is still OEM squishy. hitting bumps is jarring and if there is a whoop in the road these add so much preload to the rear end that the dampers can't keep up. The back shoots right back up to full extension and causes my head to bang off my headrest.

    I've ridden in a lot of pickup trucks from old T100's to full dually tow rigs. This thing sucks compared to an airbag setup or the stock suspension. I'll live with bouncing off of the bump stops occasionally.
     
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  5. Sep 6, 2017 at 10:35 AM
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    Yikes, I think you may have talked me out of it. That sounds pretty miserable. Should I go AAL instead? Swap all four shocks for some BIlls?
     
  6. Sep 6, 2017 at 10:49 AM
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    I honestly haven't looked too far into suspension to be honest. I saw these and thought they were perfect, but that was too good to be true.

    I briefly looked into air bags in the back (I tow my boat 2-4 times a week, a few long trips a year too). Calculated it out to be just south of $1000 with the compressor, wiring, air bags, and regulator/valves/fittings I wanted.

    Little too expensive.

    I really don't want to replace the suspension under my truck seeing as it has 29k miles on it and is working great. I commute in my truck, rarely ever go off-road. Only need a truck to tow with.
     
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  7. Sep 6, 2017 at 10:58 AM
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    For more frequent towing, you should get the airbags. Really, on a street use only truck that never goes off road, it's the best of all worlds. Soft for daily, HUGE increase in towing capacity and no sagging.

    I think you could do it for less than $1000, and 2-4 times a week, it would be money WELL spent in my book.

    Skip on the OBA compressor and do it in your garage. Just figure out what pressure you need and pump it up at home or with a 12V VIAIR. Cheap and simple.
     
  8. Sep 6, 2017 at 2:27 PM
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    Thanks for the input. I'll look into the airbag system again to see what I can find!
     
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    Just get an air tank for $100 and charge it at your home compressor. The Firestones only cost a $100 or so. You can probably do it for under $250 total.
     
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    I have clearance above my sumo springs with an empty bed... and that's with a rack on the back and everything else is stock. I wonder why such a drastic difference between the two.
     
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    You don’t even need any tank. If it’s a firestone kit, the cheap one comes with a schrader valve you can quickly fill with a bike pump, air compressor, gas station inflator, anything.

    The tank and onboard air is really only necessary for people who plan to load and unload at a destination, or change pressures on the fly.
     
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    Firestone W217602407 Ride-Rite Kit for Toyota Tacoma 4WD https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001FEOSJY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_FqhSzbEZ5B12Q

    That’s what you want. $320. Search around and you might find it cheaper. If you want to add a compressor to adjust on the fly, add another few hundred bucks. There’s many kits available. Again, money WELL spent if you tow 2-4 times a week.

    No drilling, 1-2 hour install. It bolts onto the frame and springs on either side.

    They advertise an increase in “no sag carrying capacity” of 5000lbs. I know from practice that these things just eliminate sag no matter what you tow. You pump up the bags until it rides level and that’s it.
     
  13. Sep 6, 2017 at 3:55 PM
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    That's awesome! thank you! I'll see what I can do with these and maybe save up over the winter for a real setup.
     
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    What sumo Spring part number did you install?
     
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    The same. 610-40s
     
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    You may find a significant improvement in ride if you cut/remove the top portion of the summon springs. That should allow you enough of a gap on the frame to ease the jarring effect. There should be something on you tube and even here about the procedure. Simple and effective.
     
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  18. Sep 7, 2017 at 7:14 AM
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    Here's what 1/4(ish) cord of seasoned firewood looks like w/ 30psi in each side for the Firestones ...

    The ride does seem relatively spongier in the front during normal driving, but probably not near as bad as the sumos. I don't mind the ride at all, but some might.

    Also, on board air would be a waste of money for these. A tiny bike pump and 15-20 pumps per side will be all you need.
    [​IMG]
     

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