Great White Taco build

archive garage>?

ive installed them for someone, it you have dakars you wont get the right angles from them without some additional work. I havent seen eric say anything about the ap leafs but he called them out about the bushings

 

I would consider archive as well. I know from a shock relocation, I def recommend their 14 inch application over my BAMF relocation. The reference for their install is pretty straight forward with a lot of good documentation...Bamf couldn't tell the shop who did mine shit in regards to actual references which made the install much pricier.

 

yes archive. But supposedly they void the warranty from AP.

 

even tho their own rig runs a shackle.....

 

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chad you want to run the flippy flip

 

Wouldn't surprise me as AP wasn't involved at all in their design and doesn't want to be remotely responsible for an addition should something happen. I would bet any leaf manufacturer would claim the same unless they have a dedicated product to work in coordination with archive.

That being said, I think archive is pretty reactive to customer experiences and have been pretty good at making sure the application will work. I would go for it, if you want a relocation as it would def give you a lot of possibilities for the rear.

 

You flip the ubolts with an AP flip kit and you'll void the warranty on the AP leafs.

 

I dont know that I want a relocation. I dont have the access to a welder. And havent needed it yet. I hear the Expos have great flex. We shall see on Tuesday

 

not a Ubolt flip kit.. a Shackle Flip.

I have AP ubolt flip kit

 

I know what you're talking about...but what I'm saying is why worry about the shackle flip voiding the warranty if your ubolt flip already did it?

Edit: I'm an idiot. Disregard.

 

True, if the needs arnt there then you could hold off and test what you got. I will say this as a dude who has jack shit for fab experience...I would not take on a relocation if you don't understand all the elements involved. I do hear the jersey dudes got the skillz though.

 

yea, those guys work fast. I give up trying to keep up.

I am going to see how the Expos do for me this winter. Then we will see whats the next step in spring

 

Doh...disregard. You are correct and I'm wrong. Nothing on their site says it'll void with the ubolt flip.

 

I think because they sell it. I just looked for a shackle flip kit, and they dont have their own. But like someone else said, they run one on their company truck.. doesnt make sense.

 

Sounds like doing some runs with the Jersey guys might be in order. That way you can compare what your expos have to bring to the table vs the guys who have the relocation. You might find some extra articulation could make obstacles much more approachable than before...or not.

 

@Nimble9 definitely out-flexes me with the shackle flip. I dont think he has the relocation.

 

Yea looks like he does have some extra flex. I def don't think Joel has the relocation.

 

AP not warranting their springs if used with a shackle flip is laughable. Apparently they listen to and believe in the gossip that a shackle flip flattens out the lead springs.
And I had no issue installing my BAMF relocate.