Creationism vs. Evolution

Good to know Zack, thanks.

 

An excellent point hodge.

 

That's too vague. It depends on what the belief concerns. Sometimes the limitation of beliefs anchor you to what is good and best for society so that life is the most enjoyable for the most people; for example, the belief in the prohibition of pedophilia or the belief in freedom of speech. Those are beliefs that expand our society for the better.

 

He has a good point!

 

Even in the case of religious belief it's not true and is too vague. Modern science and rationalism came about based on the belief that God is rational and orderly and his world is understandable.

Religious belief does not hinder exploration of new ideas. Many Christians are also scientists.

 

The term that comes to mind is "good enough." What you have isn't bad. But someone has invested a lot of time and energy into making it better. But your beliefs keep you from capitalizing on their efforts.

The mention of creationist scientists has come up a lot in the last couple pages, but they have the scientific method backwards, they are not real objective scientists. A scientist formulates their thesis (not beliefs, they're ideas, subject to change as suggested by physical evidence and theoretical calculations) from OBSERVATIONS and they make up a theory that explains the physical evidence and data they have collected. As opposed to a creationist "scientist" who MAKES THE DATA AND EVIDENCE EXPLAIN A PREDETERMINED AND OUTDATED BELIEF.

Please, stop calling these people scientists.

 

Sure there are. There are many Christian evolutionary scientists. Teilhard de Chardin is a good example. They believe in evolution but they believe that God guided it or put it into motion.

 

Evolutionists have the same bias. They start with the framework that evolution is occurring and will never consider the possibility that evolution has not occurred.

 

Ok so they're both wrong. The theory of evolution was the result of a real scientist examining real evidence from the world around him and coming up with an idea. As per the scientific method further research has been done to prove/disprove the theory.
Current creationist "scientists" never underwent those steps. They were handed a story book and sought facts to prove it. I haven't heard of anyone completely objectively rewriting the bible based on evidence they collected. Their "science" is always influended by the church and therefore invalid.

 

I don't understand the first sentence that says the word 'theory' and also says 'real evidence in the world around him'. Also if there are not fossil records of the transitional animals between the Pre-cambrian and Cambrian era then where is the real evidence?

The Bible has been proved scientifically on many accounts. Look here for some detailed info on it>>>> http://www.answersingenesis.org/

 

I'm not certain what your point is? You stated Christians aren't involved in evolutionary science. I gave an example of a rather famous one who did ascribe to evolution and was involved in evolutionary science (he was a paleontologist who worked with the group that discovered Peking Man).

 

Any website that posts this can't be taken seriously. http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/1999/11/05/dinosaurs-and-the-bible

Come on, humans did not live side by side with dinosaurs.

 

You're using writings in a book to discredit the entire science of geology now? Honestly, I'm not arguing your belief. You can believe in whatever you want. But claims like that are seriously ridiculous.

Since you're so keen on reading. http://geology.com/ Try that one out.

 

No need to be condescending.

Humans did live side by side next to dinosaurs. They were not meat eaters when God created them. This has been discussed some in the last few pages of this thread.

 

ROTFL! That's the best joke I've heard all day. kudos

 

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/1999/11/05/dinosaurs-and-the-bible

So accepting all that presented from your own resource, why isn't there any mention of dinosaurs in the written record? Cunieform script started 6400 years ago. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuneiform_script] For that matter why wasn't the entire written record destroyed or at least displaced during an epic flood that hit the reset button on the entire planet?

Please PLEASE tell me the entire written record was the work of Satan. That would be the icing on the cake.

 

Dinosaurs aren't mentioned because THEY ARE THE ALIENS! That's why nobody can figure out what happened to them, and why there's no mention of them in the bible. The dino's erased all signs of themselves from any records, and planted the make-believe bones deep within the earth to throw us off the track.