Specific questions on Eibach Coils.

NightProwler · Sep 28, 2017

HSmith_11[OP] said: ↑

How would you compare the ride of new coils to used coils (Eibach)? I've seen a few sets for sale that seem reasonable. Just curious.
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I'd say go for used ones. It seems to me they take quite a while to settle in so any that have some miles on em are just getting broke in. Ha. Mine might not even be broken in yet. Lol. Got roughly 5k miles or so on em. Installed em last thanksgiving.. Damn, I dont drive much. Lol.

And that way you can test them out for not too much money. I'm still betting theyre gonna be taut tho. If you're still considering them, theyll most likely work.... You'll just need to drive it with extreme care I think. You'll probly literally have zero down travel. Ha. Considering ive only got like an inch or two.

Xbeaus · Sep 28, 2017

Tha'ts odd. My Eibach 620 coils and bilsteins 5100 with the adjustable coilovers ride really great right now. Stock bumper. Extended cab V6. They do work really well off-road. I did rebuild everything in my suspension when I did it so that might help. Ball joints, tie rod ends etc.

NightProwler said: ↑

I would avoid the eibach 620' s. Expecially with a 2.4. With my 3.4 it's pretty damned rough. Relentless bumper didn't really affect anything once it was put on, but it doesnt weigh it down all that much.. Just "supports" it and any additional weight, really. On any drops (especially speed bumps) my suspension literally slams back down on droop because there's like zero down travel. Maybe an inch. Something like that. Ha. But it actually seems to ride better off road than on, surprisingly. Kinda odd.. They have softened up but only a tiny bit. Better than it was upon initial install tho for sure. When I lowered her off the jack, it didn't budge at all as soon as the tires hit the ground. Lol.

So yeah, with a 2.4, you'll have an extremely rough ride. Come to think of it, yep just checked, toytec does not recommend them for the 2.4 and states you'll see even additional lift.

I would look into the ome coils. I'm sure you could get 3" of lift. I might be a little more hard pressed to get the promised 3" like the eibachs provide than you tho. Research those and the different coils. Lots of info out there. Including the ome setup thread. I'm still confused by some of them, but will eventually do my homework as well and end up swapping them in the long run to ome, including shocks..

And I recommend dakars as well. Perfect amount of lift for me and rides great. Although it doesnt help my front is sorely mismatched to it. Lots of flex out back but barely any in the front. But with any max lift 2.5 or more up front, youll be hard pressed to get a nice ride over all. The back is easier to manage than the front in that regard I think.

Or, get some lift shackles for the rear for now. Maybe the adjustable ones. Cheapest route and better than aal if you're only worried about lift/leveling. I consider aal' s being to support additional weight/loads. Although many do use them for lifting/leveling. Or attempting to reinforce their sagging leafs. Or for some (albeit shackles or aal) its just a temporary fix to hold them over and save for the dakars/otherwise. Which sounds like would be your best bet.

So to reiterate, my opinion, is to get some 5100's with ome coils(you could consider the 5100' s as an entry level upgrade and then switch to ome nitros down the road) with whatever else is needed for 3" up front(research, but I would guess one of their coils will work out for you w/o anything additional, like top plate spacers, etc).

Then get some lift shackles in the rear. If funds allow it, 5100's as well to accomadate that lift. Also keep in mind you may/may not need an extended brake line. Among other issues like yiur exhaust, to deal with.

Edit:And to answer your question, comparing your ride how it is now with the eibachs setup... It will be a HUGE difference in ride quality. Your stock springs are way softer and even being preloaded by the 5100, its gonna ride way better. I had some rancho shocks paired with 2" spacers on stock coils(that were on when I bought it) and it rode waaaay smoother than what it is now. Granted it was only 2" lift. But keep in mind, lift is not all that affects ride quality. Its all about them coils(and shocks, as well as matching the front and rear setups as good as possible to work together too). A preloaded setup with softer coils will ride better than heavy duty coils 'designed' to support a shit ton of extra weight. Hell you could throw some spacers on what you have now and still come out better than getting eibachs. Lol. Although I dont recommend that.. Anyways, I just wanna be clear. And clarify. Because some dont mind the rough ride. Which you had said, but wanted to throw those comparisons out there for ya to give you some perspective. As well as reiterate your outcome will be even greater than most being 2.4. Although I'm sure some have done it and will tell you all day long their truck is great (....mhm...). But anyways.. I don't mind my ride all that much. But I do have regrets. And refused to believe what others had said about them being "that stiff" and thought they were just exaggerating a bit...... Nope!
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HSmith_11 · Sep 28, 2017

Xbeaus said: ↑

Tha'ts odd. My Eibach 620 coils and bilsteins 5100 with the adjustable coilovers ride really great right now. Stock bumper. Extended cab V6. They do work really well off-road. I did rebuild everything in my suspension when I did it so that might help. Ball joints, tie rod ends etc.
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This is why I'm a bit unsure of what route to go because peoples opinions differ in a really big way. How much lift did you get out of them and what did you do to the rear?

Xbeaus · Sep 29, 2017

HSmith_11[OP] said: ↑

This is why I'm a bit unsure of what route to go because peoples opinions differ in a really big way. How much lift did you get out of them and what did you do to the rear?
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I bought the Toytec coilovers. They came out of some place in Colorado. The company was really helpful and explained to me a couple things. I have the height adjustable 5100 shocks on there. They said to put them on the lowest notch because that gives the shock the most travel and it absorbs bumps the best this way. I did notice that made a huge difference in ride. I also noticed that the more I twisted the adjusting sleeve (more lift) the harsher the ride was. I also have stock control arms and I only adjusted it to 2-1/2" of lift so I did not have my CV boots rubbing themselves raw. My tires are 265/75/16 so about a 32". According to my door sticker they are 3" taller than my stock tires. Gives me ample amount of lift (IMO).

The rear of the truck has a 5 pack of leaf springs which appears to be an upside down AAL. The shocks are Red with no label so I am unsure what I have back there. The rear was set-up like that when I bought it years ago along with some Fox coilovers that had spacers on the top. That was a terrible riding setup. I am happy with what's on there now.

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