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2017 Tacoma BFG KO2 tire pricing

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Loudog504, Oct 2, 2017.

  1. Oct 6, 2017 at 2:44 PM
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    Good tires, never had a blowout and used them on my Gen 1 for off-road work and play in rocky desert, towed with them and worked on icy/snowy roads with them too. They sucked on ice and snow covered ice (snow packs in the threads and kills all traction) but then every non-studded tire does that too. It just seemed to be a lot more slippery with the harder rubber. Awesome on wet roads though, and mud too. Long treadlife and relatively good mileage and noise level. I like them, can't wait for my stock tires on my Gen 3 wear out, BFG KO's in my future!!
     
  2. Oct 6, 2017 at 4:12 PM
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    Just got an email from my dealer about the buy three tires gets the fourth for $1, but I can't seem to find ko2s on there lol.
     
  3. Oct 7, 2017 at 10:07 AM
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    Came out to $749.05 total with tax. Very happy with them. In the short time I've had them they seem to ride better tahn stock and have no noticeable increase in road noise. I will update on fuel efficiency after a few fill ups.

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  4. Oct 7, 2017 at 10:13 AM
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    Nice! Looking to replace my tires with K02’s all terrain but trying to wear out the stock tires first.
     
  5. Oct 7, 2017 at 10:52 AM
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    You won't regret it! If it's any consolation I was able to get 200 instant on Craigslist for the 4 old tires with 13k miles on them. So all in all came out to 550 bucks.
     
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    https://imgur.com/a/qOadb

    Just saw this, I went out of town and had zero service. I hope these pics help!
     
  7. Oct 8, 2017 at 6:41 AM
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    This makes me nervous, I drive in pretty harsh winter conditions and a big reason I went with these is they are Severe Winter rated with the snowflake M/S symbols (which in the state of Oregon without that you are required to carry chains in bad weather).

    People seem to have mixed reviews on the stock OR tires, but I drove last year in a very ugly winter season with great success. I was very happy with the stock tires in ice/snow on the highway.

    My other car is a Subaru Forester with studdless snow tires and there isn’t much in the winter that car can’t do.

    To clarify, I’m talking about on road conditions with plowed and unplowed highway that may have been ice packed, before or after cinder drop, etc. Not talking about off-road snow/ice.
     
  8. Oct 8, 2017 at 8:07 AM
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    I love BFGs and will buy them for my new truck, but I don't do snow driving much anymore and don't mind missing it. My take on them is that they are great off road, and in all warmer conditions, but I was working on a mountain highway project for over three years, and being that it was in Southern California, the icy winter conditions there only lasted for a few weeks each winter, but since we were in shade all day it never melted and got rather icy Whenever the scraper plowed the road, he'd leave ice packed snow behind and we did not use cinder on it- everyone was slipping, but dang- all four of mine would slide sideways even when I was just crawling due to the angle of the road crown! The rear would break loose if I barely moved and do the same. I've lived in the Sierra Mtns and know how to drive on snow with regular snow tires. I think the KO's just don't grab on snow or ice as well as other tires Ive had on other trucks, and I really think it's because they have really hard rubber- which is an big plus for wear in dry conditions, but not when the treads get packed with snow.

    One thought- if you are running them at full pressure on really cold days, less tread will be touching the road.

    AND- If you want to better winterize your KO's, have you considered siping them? It would have helped mine a lot, but I didn't do it since Im lazy and was in the snow for such a short time those three years, but I'd do it if I lived in the mountains or up north. You have to consider your most driven on terrain before siping your tires though- I wouldn't do it if you have a long dry season like we do in So Cal, or if you go off roading on rocky roads a lot.

    Tile siping: http://www.snowtrek.org/tire-siping/tire-siping.php
     
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  9. Oct 10, 2017 at 9:01 AM
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    Just got back into town and got service. Disappointing read for sure, hopefully I have better results as winter driving is the primary reason I went w/ the KO2's. The stock tires received some criticism by a lot of folks on TW but I put them through the paces for on road winter conditions last year and I was impressed (for them not being a dedicated snow tire). I really feel the only reason the Goodyear Wrangler's didn't have the Snowflake M/S rating was them going through the certification process/expense.
     
  10. Oct 10, 2017 at 11:26 AM
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    I think you will be ok- try it out and see how it goes. Siping them is supposed to help a lot if you decide they don't work on snow or ice as well as you would like. I got by with them- just knew my limits after doing it awhile. I didn't know the Goodyear wranglers don't have a snow rating, now you have me bummed as I was planning to do some winter road trips (Yellowstone in snow,etc) this year. KOs will be a first choice for me, as I do most of my off-road driving year round in the desert on dry and often rocky roads.
     
  11. Oct 10, 2017 at 12:08 PM
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    If you are still running the stock tires I wouldn't be discouraged they performed great for me. Last year I had to make weekly 400 mile round trip drives over/through the pass all winter and it was a brutal season, they were more than adequate. Technically, if I was pulled over or stopped, they could turn me around without at least having chains in the vehicle (I just borrowed some from my neighbors truck that didn't fit, but I had them for show). I do consider myself a pretty seasoned winter driver.

    When I had my '90 Land Cruiser it had Michelin XLT's on it and that truck was very sound going through the Sierra's in CA. When we moved to Oregon I ended up buying a Bronco and put BFG KO(original) after sliding around on the generic Savero's tires it had from the P/O, and it was dogshit either way. Never felt like anything other than a set of ski's on that thing and I didn't trust it.
     
  12. Oct 10, 2017 at 2:20 PM
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    The stock Goodrich wranglers have small lugs and are double siped on each- so I thought they'd be good on snow. They also have "M+S" stamped on the sidewall, so I think the CHP are ok with that, at least here. Do they really need a snow emblem in Oregon in addition to "M+S"? If you need to, sipe the KO lugs to something like these Stock Goodrich wranglers:


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    Thats close yo what i paid 2 years ago when i bought a set for my jeep. i didnt have the buy three get one deal but I had a $25 rebate for each tire which comes out to about the same.
     
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    I have 35,000 miles on my KO2'S and I'm not impressed with them at all. Wet traction is scary loose, any type of mud and they clog up. Snow traction is ok for the first 20,000 miles, after that they absolutely suck. I am looking at replacing them with either Falken AT3 or Cooper ST Maxx. Just my opinion after 2 years of driving on them.
     
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    That seems to be the common theme with regard to CONs for the KO2. I cannot speak to the performance of that version as I have never run them. I had a set of the old KO and although they looked great and performed well off-road, they seemed down right dangerous in slippery conditions.

    The KO2 looks great for sure, but keeping my family safe in all conditions is more important for me. Not to mention pricing. I've found far better all-round options elsewhere. I'm curious about the Falken AT3 for my next tire as well, if I don't go Cooper again.
     
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    Correct, it is a state thing between California and Oregon. Good conversation for people who may drive in winter conditions to make sure they review what applies for their location. I used to live in Cali but now that I am in Oregon there are different requirements.

    CALTRANS defines them as "Snow Tread Tires", for R1 & R2 chain controls tires need the M&S marking in lieu of chains. R3 controls still require chains on all vehicles regardless, but roads will typically just close before R3 is issued. More info here: http://www.dot.ca.gov/cttravel/chain-controls.html

    ODOT defines them as "Traction Tires" as studded tires or tires that have the Mountain Snowflake symbol. More info here: https://www.tripcheck.com/Pages/chain-laws.asp

    The reality is that it probably just boils down to politics and which tire manufactures want to pay for which certification rather than one standard being better than the other. The mountain snowflake symbol seems to be more prevalent nationally in Canada. I read up on the siping and at a minimum I'll probably have that done.
     
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    The E rated will ride rough on such a light weight truck.
     
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    I had them installed on Friday and after a 500+ mile road trip this weekend I don’t have any complaints on the ride quality. I was going to add more air but when I checked them this morning they were at 38psi.
     
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    I run my E load KO2'S at 32F & 30R. They still ride stiff, which is expected for a 10 ply tire on a Tacoma. Compared to other E load tires they have a harsher impact over road imperfections, but they have one of the strongest sidewalls in the market.
     
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    Super subjective i guess but i like you found the ride quality to be the same if not slightly better than stock.

    This is with me going into it expecting them to be stiff.
     
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