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Plate Bumpers after impact with pics?

Discussion in 'Armor' started by ManBeast, Jun 28, 2015.

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  1. Oct 31, 2017 at 9:47 AM
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    EatSleepTacos

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    Something that ARB can test to market their bumper better. I believe the airbags are inertia activated, so they'd work with any plate bumper, but small fabricators can't test and guarantee that. Duh Matt
     
  2. Oct 31, 2017 at 9:52 AM
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    Those marketing geniuses! :D
     
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    The ARB bumper is Australia certified to be airbag compliant.

    The crush-cans give the 2 airbag sensors mounted on the Tacoma front fascia support, the milliseconds needed to sense a changed state indicating a collision and to trigger the airbags, before they get wiped out by the collision crush-down of the front end.
     
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  4. Oct 31, 2017 at 9:58 AM
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    Ya'll need a high school physics lesson. You don't want your steel bumper holding up in a collision. That's what kills you and also what makes your airbags go off much easier than they're supposed to. You want the perfect mix between holding up against low speed rock impacts and ability to give in high speed collisions.
     
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  5. Oct 31, 2017 at 10:04 AM
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    Hamilton, Ontario, Canada, eh?
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    Gone over the Top for a 5-lug..
    ... i don't think people posting up the aftermath of collisions are dead ... and there are a few dramatic examples found throughout the thread.

    There are trade-offs, agreed. A higher speed collision, all bets are off whether relying on the stock bumper, or the aftermarket armored type.

    Armor can help to minimize the effects of lower speed collision scenarios .. my own example included. Trucks aren't designed to meet DOT passenger vehicle requirements - they don't even have 5 mph bumpers. Being low-speed hit in the rear 2x with the OEM bumper, made that fairly obvious. Pull off the front bumper fascia.. all i can say is i remember when bumpers were actual functional bumpers..

    That said, i did select the ARB, because it is designed to crush down, in a higher impact collision scenario.
     
  6. Oct 31, 2017 at 10:10 AM
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    Some of the issue is that the photos that we see here are rigid truck with steel bumper versus little civic with built in crumple zones. So the accident isn't just your truck, in the example I gave, the civic becomes YOUR crumple zone because your truck is so much more stiff than the civic. If you were to ram a bollard outside the federal reserve bank, I'm willing to bet that your retinas would detach and you would die. ALL the crash energy gets transferred to the unlucky TacomaWorld reader, repeat the same thing in a stock truck and you get your crumple zones back. Then you will survive our federal reserve bollard ramming example, until the guards shoot you.
     
  7. Oct 31, 2017 at 10:11 AM
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  8. Oct 31, 2017 at 12:57 PM
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    Does bamf make bumpers?
     
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    Bollard, my fault. Asshole in a civic that pulled out in front of me and became a crumple zone, their fault.
     
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    You're not wrong. But many have died right. What if that idiot had a steel bumper of his own? Or an older vehicle that doesn't have crumple zones? I'm not advocating against armor, i have no problem running it myself because i know the risks and i accept those as well as minimize them with defensive driving. But this rampant notion that steel bumpers somehow protect better than stock is nonsense that needs to die. Maybe from a deer strike. But not a major collision. If it was that simple they'd still be building cars like it was the 1940s.
     
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    CowboyTaco $20 is $20

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    Show me.

    Here's mine:
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    Looking at the mounts from the outside and inside. What an I missing?
     
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    No idea what those photos show - just too murky.

    On mine, they are built into the core structure of the subframe - literally looking like cans.
     
  13. Nov 1, 2017 at 1:26 PM
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    Can you show pics of yours? I want to see what I am missing.

    I can't imagine, but I wonder if it has anything to do with your truck being a 5-lug 4 cylinder...

    Also, I think your model number is wrong. I just googled it and found nothing for "ARB 343130"

    Mine is the 3423130 found here: http://trdparts4u.toyotaofdallas.com/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=-8226
     
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  14. Nov 1, 2017 at 1:42 PM
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    Sorry, yes.. that is the exterior part no for the bumper.

    To see it, I think you have to drop the exterior 'skid-plate'. I don't believe you can side-view it. It's partially integrated into the sub-frame.

    I did the install in mid-2015 .. I distinctly remember eyeballing them. Nothing to do with being a 5-lug 4 cylinder .. my truck is essentially the same as the 6-lugs, except for axles and suspension components.
     
  15. Nov 1, 2017 at 3:12 PM
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    There are enough holes in the bumper. With no winch, you should be able to get a clear pic of just about anything. I question you only to make sure that anyone reading this has accurate information. I installed my bumper and I do not recall seeing anything that looked like cans. Just the bumper supports and the actual bumper.
     
  16. Nov 1, 2017 at 3:40 PM
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    With all due respect, question away .. Don't know what temperature it is in your part of the world at the moment, but lying down on sub-freezing pavement taking photos ain't in my game. A stock photo will have to suffice.

    Edit.. original post had a stock photo off of a 3423130 how-to assembly instruction.. but NOT a 3423130 subframe or bumper.. fml. I'll keep looking. Not going under that damn truck at night.
     
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    I wonder if i should tag all the fab shop owners on this thread and see if they have any customer submissions that they have received from customers who have wrecked and how well the stuff held up..
     
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    Found these on a salvage auction site... no back stories to go with them.

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    Shit looks like it wasnt train proof
     
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