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3rd Gen Frame

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Riksolo, Nov 8, 2017.

  1. Nov 8, 2017 at 8:27 AM
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    LivinOnEdge

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    Aren't all modern cars basically junk in terms of rigidity? I feel like this shouldn't have to be said. Modern cars focus more on technology than practical application of the vehicle. Heck, the goal it seems is to have our rides drive themselves. My buddies Infiniti already does this too. You couldn't crash his car if you tried. But if someone bumps him, the paint on the bumper alone costs nearly 1/4 of the cars value.
     
  2. Nov 8, 2017 at 9:27 AM
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    Perhaps the "disposable truck" is required to prevent loss of life or limb.
    Passenger safety!
    You should get some new material, you do tend to spout the same lines over and over.

    Yes, I was originally not happy to read that some of the steel in these vehicles could not be repaired, but after thinking about it, I can see the logic in it and am glad to have it.

    Well put, I believe if it is possible to walk away from a totalled vehicle, that is the true meaning of "priceless".
     
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  3. Nov 8, 2017 at 10:40 AM
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    Yes, it is. Having seen such happen recently, I surely am glad it crumpled instead of my loved ones. Makes you realize most of the crap we worry about suddenly isn’t very important.
     
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    Yes but it still sucks for a truck. We all hate on ridgelines for not having a frame but ours is moving far away from a true truck frame too. To me, trucks aren't for driving 100mph but meant to be put to work. And if the frame buckles at the slightest impact it will also deform under heavy towing/hauling or off-road and that sucks
    You're supposed to be able to push things out of the way with the bumper or tow rocks/logs out of the way...
     
  6. Nov 8, 2017 at 11:32 AM
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    I honestly think you just saw a couple random examples and are extrapolating WAY too much from that. The fact is the 3rd gen frame isn't any geometrically different than the 2nd gen frame and its much stronger. The only changes to the frame and chassis for the 3rd gen was Toyota used even stronger higher grade steele in certain sections, everything is stronger. Just go look at the IIHS tests on roof strength, the 3rd gen is 70% stronger! Its why they now offer a moonroof...

    I work at a dealership and we also have an on-site bodyshop, we get tacomas in all the time we haven't noticed any increase in frame damage from the 3rd gen tacomas and frame damage happens to tacomas as much as any other truck we get.


    All I see are benefits: stronger lighter frame and higher safety ratings...
     
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  7. Nov 8, 2017 at 11:33 AM
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    lol FAKE NEWS.

    In what way has the 3rd gen frame moved away from a "true truck frame"??? I'd love to know :)

    Its the same frame as before only has higher grade steele if anything that's moving towards a true truck frame not away lol.
     
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    I want some of whatever you are smoking mr fake news... do you have orange hair?
     
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    Fanboys to the rescue again! I just love the way the Fanboys try to turn everything negative about their Taco into a positive thing. Don't even get them started on the rear brake drums ha ha.
     
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    Toyota frame rust settlement could cost the company $3.4 billion :bananadead:

    "The repair is an expensive, labor-intensive process that requires nearly the complete disassembly of the vehicle."

    "A technician at a northeastern Toyota store, who said he was not authorized to speak for the dealership and asked to remain anonymous, estimated that seven of 10 trucks that have come in for inspection need a frame replacement." :facepalm:


    http://autoweek.com/article/recalls/toyota-frame-settlement-could-cost-company-34-billion

    Guess that's what you get when you cheap out on the frames hey Sweers?

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  12. Nov 9, 2017 at 8:57 AM
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    exactly you can't answer the question at all because you're just making shit up lol
     
  13. Nov 9, 2017 at 9:01 AM
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    Pointing out facts is being a fanboy now? Sorry I interrupted your circle jerk about bullshit but still waiting for one of you to point out anything actually factual instead of just bitching and moaning like teenage girls :jerkoff:
     
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    Not really, dad's old '92 GMC (which has been like the Chuck Norris of trucks) even when he got it in '94, going over rough terrain you could hear all the plastic move as the cab (and I am sure the frame) flexed.

    Trucks in general have never had more rigid cabs or frames.

    There was a post on a group on on facebook this morning, a guy took a very light looking hit in the rear. Hardly touched the rear bumper (had receiver in though), pushed him into the car in front of him and messed up his bull bar and barely got into his grille... and it bent the frame. Dunno the full sorry of course but the first thing I thought of was this thread.
     
  15. Nov 9, 2017 at 1:03 PM
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    I got new leaf springs due to this on my old '08.
     
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    This was the same as on the 2nd gens.
    If you have a hitch, and it takes an impact,it’s going to take the majority of the force and buckle the frame forward is the hitch.
    Kink vs bend just like on any other structural part of any full frame or unibody vehicle.
    Depending on how bad it is,it can either be pulled or needs a frame. Old news
     
  17. Nov 9, 2017 at 2:20 PM
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    So, first pic is the 2002 Suburban that rammed my '08in the rear going at least 50
    Second pic is all it did to the rear of my '08 Taco - I'd say pretty stout! Drove all way back from Shreveport to Houston and drove so smooth and straight I forgot it was damaged! It did get totaled though.

    IMG_3414[1].jpg IMG_3411[1].jpg
     
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    energy absorption.
    Theres a lot of energy in any vehicle collision even going just 10mph. If the frame was solid that energy would pass through to the first thing that has some flex which is more than likely your neck so its best to have the frame tweak itself absorbing that impact instead of transferring it.
     
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  19. Nov 9, 2017 at 4:40 PM
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    I think you meant to say "draw bar", the receiver is the assembly with the 2" hole that "receives" the draw bar...
     
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    If the impact is with enough force to bend the frame, this will cause more damage to the frame not less. Because the OEM bumper is designed to crumple to take force, and aftermarket are not and will simply put all that force directly to the frame. Now on a hit that doesn't generate enough force to bend the frame, this kinda bumper will do a lot better.
     
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