2018 Tacoma’s Are “No Touch” Vehicles?

How about we just wait and see how it truly performs then decide with actual results instead of this endless speculation.

My response wasn't directed specifically at you but the basis of this whole thread.

 

First, you all do understand that this is a fedral mandate that all vehicles have ADAS systems in place?
Unless you’re never buying a new car again, you will at some point have to have this technology.
Secondly, Toyota provides aiming procedures based of stock vehicles.
Taking your lifted vehicle to a dealership and asking them to re-calibrate the wave radar sensor and forward recognition camera because you lifted your truck... isn’t supported by Toyota....you’re leaving the dealer to figure out the parameters on their own. Also taking 100% of the liability that comes along with that if the system doesn’t function as designed.
It’s also affected by wheel alignment angles which are inherent issues with lifted trucks.
Payload is another one, if the truck is overloaded it’s going to affect operation.
Of course they are going to call it no-touch, this truck has more elcectronics in it than the space shuttle. Literally.

But someone is going to take it on, dealerships are not going to stop customizing trucks just because they have TSS. There’s way too much margin in it.
My suggestion would be to hunt down a dealer that does a lot of liftingans customization,have them do your alignment and TSS alignments.
FYI it’s going to be pricey.

I attached the aiming procedure so all you engineers out there can see how involved it is.

 

I was implying that it sounds too perfect to effective in real world situations as presented thus far.

You can't level or lift your truck but a truck being used as a truck will commonly run level with cargo in the bed... so what is keeping it from freaking out over that? That doesn't add up.

 

This wouldn't surprise me if It was true. Hell, you can't even check the transmission fluid anymore so what do you expect.

 

I agree, seems more hassle than what it's worth but until I see it perform in real time applications, I'll withhold judgement until then.

 

Thanks for the link! Ill probably make a video for how to do this when i get my 2018.

 

If it is true, why not lower the TSS mounting point to its original height?

 

Sounds like bullshit. I've already driven a 2018 Tundra with TSS and a 4" lift. Worked fine.

 

must be stock supras

 

There you go, real world data.

 

I mean I'm sure from a liability standpoint ANY Toyota representative is going to HAVE to tell you its dangerous to alter ANYTHING. So that if the TSS screws up from one of a million outside factors Toyota won't be liable because they warned you not to do it.

Same thing with tire chains/cables. Obviously those are still necessary at times, but almost every dealership in California is going to make you sign a "tire chain disclosure" anyways rather you're buying a Tacoma or a Prius... the official policy is NEVER use chains or cables. Obviously in the real world people still use them and do just fine.... but the dealership is telling you not to anyways, just liability.

 

Yeah, and it still won't work, and they will still take your money, and you will still have a dash light on.

I can't get my VSS to work right, and the new stuff is way more complicated.

Toyota did not make these vehicles to be messed with, nor do they care if you want to modify it.

 

From another thread:

TSS - All models will have TSS-P (Toyota Safety Sense)

• Pre-Collision System
• Lane Departure Alert and SWS
• Automatic High Beams
• Dynamic Radar Cruise Control

So, the SR and SR5 will have it as well.

 

The way around it is to buy a 2017

 

As far as sensory features are concerned...

The tech package includes:
Rear parking sonar
Blind spot monitor
Rear cross traffic alert.

This TSS-P has:
Pre-Collision System with Pedestrian Detection
Lane Departure Alert with Sway Warning System
High-Speed Dynamic Radar Cruise Control

 

I totally disagree, but then I like the backup cam for specific purposes. You don't HAVE to look at the screen when backing up, but it's nice to have the option sometimes. I love it for times when I want to back right up to the curb with my tires (and hang the back end of the truck out over the median without hitting a tree or bush) so that I'm out of the way of parking lot traffic in my tight work parking lot. It's also really great for backing up to a trailer. I rarely have to make any adjustment to get the ball/receiver lined up properly, which is especially nice with a bigger, heavier trailer that you can't wiggle back and forth much.

 

You really think Toyota would build a truck that could not be lifted or modified?

 

I did not mean that you have not driven a Tacoma-- what I meant was that you have not (probably not) had the experience of owning a car with the new safety "stuff" (like ACC and forward collision detection/avoidance systems) like the "stuff Subaru has had available for several years! we have for 3 years --it can save Your "unattentive to driving" life, to say nothing of lessening serious injuries.

 

no touch would be false. As the system is selectable.

So at most what it means is no different than BSM and rear cross traffic with aftermarket bumper, it just won't work anymore after lift.
But I really doubt that's true. Besides what do parts guys know? 9/10 they're even more stupid than the sales reps.

 

Plus -- money seems to "no object" when it comes to modifying Tacomas!