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Actual Moderator with a Tacoma...But Definitely Not a Build Thread

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Builds (2005-2015)' started by jberry813, Oct 10, 2016.

  1. Oct 29, 2017 at 8:25 AM
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    jberry813

    jberry813 [OP] Professional Fluffer Moderator

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    ...too much shit to list.
    Ahhhhh.
    Well in Barker Ranch I would agree. Saline Valley...different story all together!
     
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  2. Oct 29, 2017 at 8:46 AM
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    That’s the whole reason to travel.
     
  3. Oct 29, 2017 at 11:32 AM
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    nDub

    nDub Kan kun være malet af en gal mand

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    That’s how I read it too
     
  4. Oct 29, 2017 at 11:35 AM
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    Really? That's not what I meant at all.......lol
     
  5. Oct 29, 2017 at 11:45 AM
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    nDub

    nDub Kan kun være malet af en gal mand

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    Yes you did. Two of us confirmed it.




    :cookiemonster:
     
  6. Oct 29, 2017 at 11:49 AM
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  7. Oct 29, 2017 at 1:41 PM
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    bski22 Shaka Zulu \000/

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    Read the 4x4 Offroad article of a radical 1st gen with an LOL JEEP license plate. Asking for a friend on how one gets king shocks valved so that sway is only slightly noticeable when towing a trailer as the article gave the impression of the Tacoma being a Cadillac on the highway but being butter on the rocks. Not sure if this is bad form but did I miss a re-valving or valving post somewhere in this 2nd gen build page?
     
  8. Oct 29, 2017 at 2:16 PM
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    ...too much shit to list.
    I do all my shock work, valving, and bypass tuning. Trailer included.
    It starts with an educated guess and trial and error until I'm happy with the performance and my driving style. Not something I post publicly.
     
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    tubbsisland I took snowtanks beer

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  10. Oct 31, 2017 at 7:58 AM
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    What happened to the turd gen?
     
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  11. Oct 31, 2017 at 2:42 PM
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    Happy Halloween

    IMG_3663.jpg
     
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  13. Oct 31, 2017 at 5:01 PM
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    nailed it
     
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    :anonymous:
     
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  15. Nov 13, 2017 at 11:52 AM
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    If I remember correctly you picked up the new bamf shackle hangers? I'm going to be switching from a shackle flip Andy I'm looking at the bamf ones and the new archive ones. The bamf on are just a super beef stock replacement and th archive ones apparently have The pivot point moved back and lower for better geometry

    I don't know a whole bunch about suspension geometry ( which is why I ended up with a shackle flip) but would There be any downsides to going with the different geometry or should I use got back to rock geometry with the bamf one? Just trying to learn as much as I can before spending some monies.

    Thanks in advance for any insite on this :)
     
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  16. Nov 13, 2017 at 1:03 PM
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    I have BAMF's on order. I'm sure archive makes a fine product, but I've already cycled my leaf pack based on factory mount points with an OE replacement pack when I did my shock relocation. I'm damn sure not doing it again after moving mount points.
    Moving the pivot down will give the rear some additional ride height, but again sacrifice bump travel (unless you allow the pack to go more negative than it already does. As an example, this is what the leaf pack looks like full bump with factory mount points work with an OE replacement pack:

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    Springs are consumable. The more negative you set them, the faster they wear out. I set bump at about 3/4" negative. When I was cycling, if anything I would have moved the mount forward rather than rearward. It would allow the rear pivot to rotate more rearward and add some height to ride-height. But this was cycling with MY leaf pack. The problem when you start changing out mount points, every vendor has their own idea of how the pack and pivots should move throughout the travel range.
     
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  17. Nov 13, 2017 at 1:09 PM
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    Thank you so much for this. This is exactly the info I was looking for, I think based off of what you said i'all get the bamf one. I will for sure have to change up the shock mount on the axle to get proper droop and bump.
     
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  18. Nov 13, 2017 at 1:27 PM
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    Right now nobody knows much about my kit except for me. For instance shackle length plays a role. I offer 4.9" shackles that actually get the spring eye slightly higher than stock = less negative arch. With stock length shackles, we are talking a 1/2" more negative arch with all else stock. Also, you're bumping out with air bumps. If one does not and has a u-bolt flip, that takes up the 1/2". There's going to be a lot of generalizations

    It also depends on how flat your spring is. By moving the shackle pivot back with an arched spring, that likely puts the shackle closer to vertical at full bump. Flat springs at ride height, well the shackle will rotate forward slightly at negative arch, but thats not much height difference for the rear spring eye in a vertical measurement.

    Eric
     
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  19. Nov 13, 2017 at 2:34 PM
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    You're right, I don't know much about your kit. Which is why I commented based on the information I was given. Lower and more rearward mounting compared to stock geometry, and not paired with any aftermarket length shackles.
    As I said, everyone has their own interpretation on how packs and pivots should should move and position through the travel range.
     
  20. Nov 13, 2017 at 3:03 PM
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    You were right on when you said "cycling with MY leaf pack", there are significant differences in the leaf pack offerings, like length that affect shackle rotation for overall travel and even spring eye style for how negative a pack goes.
     
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