New England B.S. Thread

Did anyone else see this in The Globe today?

https://youtu.be/3KPYIaks1UY

 

I didn't see it in the globe but, I've seen the video before. I think the main reason they didn't make it past that stage due to the cost of making the suspension

 

That's pretty cool. They said it's a commercial failure because it's too heavy and expensive but I wonder how long until it makes it's way into a high end car or SUV. Having a ride that smooth would be worth a price to some I'd imagine. I bet you could bury it into a $100k+ vehicle.

 

Has there been any more talk about this going on or not?
I'd love to get some fluid film on my truck before winter.

 

One thing to mention. I bet that stock suspension car stopped quicker than the Bose system unless they modified the brakes too. Weight transfer is a real thing and the brakes are designed to work with the amount of transfer that the suspension allows. If something like that ever came into production they would probably engineer it to have some dip in it as the car was breaking

 

It’s kindof getting cold/wet on the weekends for it

 

Yes it's happening this weekend 11/19

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/central-ma-fluid-film-application-redux-11-19.518761/

 

It's still transferring weight, it's not just letting it's nose dive out of sight. It's just like when you put heavier springs on your truck, the front won't nose dive as much under heavy braking but it still stops like it should.

 

Damn goodluck hope you guys have some try weather

 

Just a range day. I took tomorrow off to sight in the new scope on the black powder, check the 12ga to be sure it's ready and hell the ar just for fun.

 

I'm overdue for a range day. Enjoy it!! I'm extremely jealous!

 

Yeah the force of breaking is still exactly the same if anything might be a more consistent force to the ground because the suspension is closing mimicking a static force opossed to the dynamic of shocks/springs because when they rebound you actually lose for force to the ground.

 

Headed with a buddy to his in Plymouth, after I may try and get in an afternoon hunt while o am down there

 

Awesome! Thank you!

 

Oh I know. Springs are not the only thing that allow for squat though, that is the the design geometry of the suspension and it's built in for a reason. Take away the squat and your going to reduce the weight transfer and reduce the amount of braking efficiency. Don't get me wrong too much is not good either.

 

I would think braking would be better. The car isn't nose diving and taking weight off of the rear wheels.

 

The springs actually take a lot of energy away from that weight transfer rather than transmitting the force directly to the ground. A great example is a full suspension vs. a hard tail mountain bike. When you're pedaling up hill, it takes a lot more energy to get the full suspension bike up the hill because the shocks soak up some of the power (obviously, the trade off is hopefully better traction since the tire is actually staying in contact with the ground). That's basically the same principle, just in reverse, acceleration vs. deceleration. The Bose system is design to keep the wheels in firm contact with the ground but not compress. I would tend to think that braking would be better.

 

Mine is soon so you have time to get me one

Happy birthday Jason!!

 

So lame. I'm stuck with a $500 deductible for the Jeep because some @sshat hit it and ran.

I'm impressed you could even fit hunting boots in a Miata. I don't have obscenely large feet (12-13 depending on shoe) but I couldn't fit my sneaker between the dead pedal and tunnel on an NB Miata. I could on the NC and I've never been in an NA.

I used to heel-toe the STi in flip flops. It was embarrassing when you got it wrong, though. I had a tendency to double clutch my downshifts in that car because the shifter lent itself nicely to it, but on occasion I'd let a good heel toe go and it was magical.

The Vette's pedals are much better placed for a heel toe, but the gear box is really imprecise compared to what I've had in the past, so I have to be careful going through the gears quickly. It's easy to miss a gate or not get 100% engagement. I've never ground gears with any frequency until I got that car. The box itself seems to be in good shape and the synchros are good, I'll just bork shifts every so often, which bothers me more than it should.

 

Ok think of it the way Mike did. Why are sports cars or even better drag race cars set up with bigger tires in the rear? Because that is where the traction is (they are the drive tires on drag cars after all), even an modern high performance AWD car has bigger tires in the back . Drag racers, sports cars etc rely on weight transfer to help put the power to the ground. Without the transfer they would spin the tires. It's the same reason that EVERY car or truck has bigger brakes in the front than the rear. Because of the weight transfer most cars or trucks are set up to do 70% of the braking with the front wheels and only 30% with rear. Propositions can change depending on setup but that is a pretty good starting point. The amount of dive/squat is designed in to help the acceleration or braking and its MORE dependent on the suspension geometry. Not that spring or shock rates don't have anything to do with it.

I'd love to see a REAL braking test between that stock car and the Bose suspension car!