2018 pre-collision disable?

Imagine that as a retirement vehicle! Convert the box to a toy hauler and wake up every day in a different state!

 

Well I’m unemployed lol. Have to go back to machining now.

 

Oh I totally understand. I drive probably 2000 miles a week, I just prefer to have the wheel.

 

That’s some good information. It’s good to hear that you can shut it all off. Also that the collision avoidance is not crazy. All my experience is from a Volvo semi and the collision avoidance is vicious and you have zero control.

 

Yea I made sure to try it out to see how it reacted and it wasn’t intrusive to my steering and accelerating out of the braking was very responsive

 

We were going to try it with the company car but the manager decided against it lol. I told him if were were doing it he was driving the big truck. The only experience I’ve had with it is when it glitches out and dose it for no reason at 65. Volvo and western star both seem to be aware of it, although idk if they care. Hopefully if it takes off in cars which it seems like it is, it is a lot more issues free.

 

Complain all you want, but this technology will soon be standard on nearly all vehicles. Auto manufacturers will offer it as a standard feature to increase crash safety ratings and insurance companies may begin to discount insurance premiums because of the technology’s perceived ability to mitigate collisions. The frequency and severity of auto collisions have continually increased, so this technology will receive a warm welcome across industries lines.

 

Yeah I know your right unfortunately. They can increase the safety level of the vehicles all they want but until they increase the intelligence level of the human behind the wheel crash rates will remain on the rise. I’d say 9 out of the 10 crazy moves I see everyday are brand new cars.

 

You can also adjust the pre collision sensitivity. I turned mine all the way down. The Lane departure sensitivity also can be adjusted if you don’t turn it all the way off like mine is

 

Get real. Humans are so unbelievably shit at driving as a whole. How tf do you expect to just make everyone get good? The obvious path forward is to take the responsibility out of their hands and let computers do it for them. Fortunately, we moving down that path nicely these days.

 

If only increasing intelligence of humans was a feasible thing...it would solve so much.

 

Why stop at vehicle collision avoidance to "help" humans make sound decisions?
How about create some kind of technology to make the best decision for the human regarding cigarette usage.
Honestly, if the world really gave a crap about your health and safety, nobody would be allow to smoke.
There are zero health benefits from smoking, yet full of health and safety issues as a result.

Yeah, we want computers to rule our minds for us. Can' wait till we all fly around in safety bubbles, sipping Gatorade food replacement juice.

 

You bridged from completing a task to "making sound decisions". The computer isn't there to tell you how to live your life. It's there to do a job. Pilot a big metal box with you inside from point A to point B. Fact is it has the potential to do this significantly better than is humanly possible. It would be no different than many of the already autonomous forms of public transportation.

The difference between ones choice to smoke and one being an irresponsible driver is one largely effects only themselves and the other directly impacts to a potentially deadly degree innocent bystanders. One's irresponsibility ends up taking another's life. We have the ability to significantly reduce the chances of that happening by removing careless humans from being responsible for the task at hand. Why do humans need to be behind the wheel? There's no justification for it if a computer can do it better, and they can.

And the bit about safety bubbles is a gross slippery slope. We went from autonomous cars providing a safer transportation infrastructure to computers ruling our minds. Really?

 

Let me ask you why do you have two manual transmission driven vehicles in your profile, when a computer controlled automatic transmissions can perform a task better than you can?

 

why do you guys keep talking about 'giving up the wheel' ?

Tacoma doesn't have Lane Depart Assist

 

Oh, and dead is dead. Second hand smoke can injure or even kill a person.
Dropped cigs in the forest can and do kill animals, trees, and humans alike.
Drivers with cigs in hand can and have caused deadly crashes that have killed innocent bystanders with the distraction.

Again, dead is dead. My point stands the same.

 

Only option is a very very expensive Tesla right now and even that is still in early development and not a fully fledged autonomous car. There's still a lot of work to do, no doubt, but we are moving down the path nicely. Just a matter of time until we'll be in a better place.

I own 6MTs because I love driving and it's fun. I don't personally want an autonomous car but I do want everyone else to have one or at least a significant percentage of other people to have them. In reality I don't see human driven cars ever being outlawed. It's not even necessary. I think they'll be on the road for many decades to come but if we can get a significant portion of the daily commuter traffic to go autonomous I think we'll have achieved much safer roadways.

 

Sure, dead is dead and I do agree that smoking can effect others and that's not okay in my book. That being said I feel careless driving is a far more prominent danger for innocent bystanders. And its not the cigs fault the driver caused a deadly crash. It's the humans fault through and through.

 

Are you sure you can turn down the Pre Collision system sensitivity? That I would have to see to believe. Are you sure it is not just the loudness of the warning alarm?

 

Ahh! I see your angle now.


MANY people should be "driven" to and from their destinations due to factors like, impatience, easily distracted, stupidity, even injury or age related limitations like reflexes and joint impairment. Just take the bus, or other public transportation would be a great option for these folks. Car pooling would be a close second to public transportation as it would reduce the one person per vehicle we see on the roads now, freeing up air space and reduce the likelihood of traffic induced collisions.
We clearly agree that "driving" a vehicle includes rowing the gears as well. I can support that.