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Urd short shifter 2016+

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by medic49, Oct 15, 2016.

  1. Feb 17, 2017 at 9:52 AM
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    Damn, that redhead knob is $100?!? I'll have to look for a weighted knob elsewhere.
     
  2. Feb 17, 2017 at 11:15 AM
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    Yeah its expensive because it has a special coating that resists change in temperature. Its solid steel but never really gets super hot or cold to the touch like you'd expect
     
  3. Feb 17, 2017 at 12:11 PM
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    I've never really looked at weighted knobs. Seems most cost just as much. I was expecting like $30. This truck and my bank account don't get along.
     
  4. Feb 17, 2017 at 2:12 PM
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    Was looking at this one but am curious to see how it looks on the truck. for those that have changed their shifter knob, what happens with the shifter boot? Does it attach to the new ball somehow or does it hang down leaving the shifter shaft visible with a limp boot? Any pics would be great image.jpg
     
  5. Feb 17, 2017 at 2:51 PM
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  6. Feb 18, 2017 at 2:45 AM
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    The trd pro knob would work with the shifter boot. For the same price as these other knobs I'd be curious to see if anyone knows how much they weigh.
     
  7. Feb 18, 2017 at 10:51 PM
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    look on the MT BS thread, many pics. when you unclip the OE knob's clip, then the boot drops. ¾" grommet takes care of it. i did it a little different by also wrapping suede leather strapping cus that's where my fingers land.
     
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  8. Jun 19, 2017 at 10:39 PM
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    Posts here were very helpful, but like everyone has already said 20 minute install is a lie. I'm sure it might have been a 15 minute install in 2005 like the directions were written. For the 2016 modifications need to be made just to get to the 2 front bolts. Others cut and peeled back the sheet metal, I drilled access holes above the bolts 3/8 drill bit and a dremel to widen the holes. Made for easier access. There is also a vent tube on the shifter plate to be removed as well, not mentioned in the directions. Overall, pain in the butt. It's unfortunate that the extra work hasn't been added to the directions in last 11 years.
     
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  9. Jun 20, 2017 at 7:23 AM
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    No issues from mine. Have had it installed for at least 6 or 7 years. Front 2 bolts were hard to access so that hasn't changed that much. If the front 2 inner boot bolts were plastic, they got changed to metal but IIRC, they were all 4 metal. As was mentioned, do the punch strike and red Loctite the set screw and enjoy!
     
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  12. Dec 13, 2017 at 8:40 PM
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    Hey guys, I'm a new member. Been following this thread to help with the install, but I totally failed at getting the new ball over the old one with the 2 c-clamps. Spent a good 5 hours trying this install; gave up and went back to stock. Drilling or cutting is definitely required to access the front two bolts (unless you drop the tranny). There is a breather tube that needs to be removed and reattached to the shifter assembly as well.

    As for the ball head, I tried using grease, dremeling down inside the c-clamps, and wacking the crap out of it with a rubber mallet; it just would not seat. Honestly thinking of returning it and abandoning all together. How tough was it for you guys to get that new head on.
     
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    I'd like to buy the short shifter kit for my 3rd gen but last time I looked they only had one for the v6 6speed... they didn't have a available option for the 4cylinder 5speed... I asked them to see if the 2nd gen version would fit in October they weren't sure but asked if I could send mine in to see if it's the same I couldn't bc then I'd have no truck... lol anyone else on the same page.? Or knows if the 2nd gen 4cylinder would fit the 3rd gen 4cylinder.. thanks
     
  14. Dec 14, 2017 at 4:48 AM
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    Would like to know as well
     
  15. Dec 14, 2017 at 5:59 AM
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    If you look at the pics on my thread you’ll see it doesn’t seat as much as you want it to. Those c clamps only go on one correct way and don’t form a complete wrap around the shifter. I hold to hold them on, coat with grease, line up the ball, and use some force/mallet to make it happen. You can see through the set screw hole that the new ball does not go all the way down to fully cover the c clamps. Mine came about 1/2 into the set screw hole. I just made sure I tightened the screws well, used a good thread locker, and then set the screw with a punch. It’s worked without issue so far.
     
  16. Dec 14, 2017 at 6:13 AM
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    What I did for mine was I bought a aftermarket shift boot retainer off Amazon in black, then the install went as follows:

    1) Remove original shift knob, disconnect boot first
    2) Open the center console and remove the plastics that cover the transmission area and surround the shift knob by firmly pulling up from both sides of the top, there are 10-12 clips and it helps to disconnect them in pairs
    3) Cut the zip tie that holds the shift boot to the original clip on retainer
    4) Insert aftermarket shift boot retainer in same orientation as OEM clip was, and use a new mini 8" zip tie to secure it. You can shorten the boot if you would like at this point by pulling more material past the zip tie and then tying it off.
    5) Put the plastic center console section back on carefully, being sure not to bind the shift boot on the shifter, and carefully thread the aftermarket shift boot retainer onto the shifter. I threaded mine until there was just enough room for the shifter to thread all the way down and then put two dots of blue loc-tite on top of the retainer, and two dots about a mm or 2 above that directly on the threads to hold the shifter in place and threaded it on as well. Will edit and post a picture from my phone.IMG_20171026_115357.jpg
     
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    Just wanted to give a final update. The amount of force I was applying to get the ball head on was concerning and it still wasn't going on. I contacted URD/Gadget; they quickly responded and told me I could mail the shifter assembly to them, and they would put the ball head on for me. I was told that their manufacturing and QC processes are on point and that it may be Toyota that may be more flexible in this area. They also said they've had a couple instances like this (4/100) :notsure:. I shipped it two days there (from cali), they put it on same day and shipped it back for another two days. So Yes, the truck was garaged for about a week. I think they may have swapped out the c-clamps for some smaller ones.. either that or I just suck. But now that its finally on, I love it. Coming from an STI, its much better.
     
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  18. Jan 3, 2018 at 5:30 PM
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    That’s awesome. His customer service is quite good, gotta give him that. Glad it all worked out :)
     
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    Thanks. You helped alot haha
     
  20. Jan 11, 2018 at 10:58 AM
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    This install on a 2017 was a nightmare! I was able to remove everything without cutting any metal, but there was no way the bolts toward the engine were going in without cutting away the metal.

    That wasn’t the hard part however. The hard part was getting the new ball extension over the shifter ball with the clamshells in place. I noted the taper as the instructions stated, but it didn’t make a difference. I tried them both ways and it was too tight no matter what. I had to file down the inside of the clamshells to be able to get the ball extension over them. Unfortunately, it didn’t go on as far as it should have and it was stuck really well—no going on further or coming off either.

    I figured it was as good as it was going to get. I reassembled the shifter assembly and while I could drive the truck, the only easy gears to get into were third and fourth. Reverse was nearly impossible and first was almost as bad. I didn’t even know if i was in fifth or sixth unless I was driving. I assume the geometry was completely off since the ball was too far down, putting too much strain on the transmission shaft.

    An enengineer buddy of mine who had done this install on his second gen several years ago took it home and rigged up a system to get the clamshells to slide in to the sleeve of the ball extension. Quite the hillbilly set-up, but it worked. Oh, and he utilized his best BFH and a hell of a swing too. He said the ball extension finally moved another 1/4” or more with his last blow to the ball extension. Now it sits where it should.

    I reinstalled the assembly yesterday and the difference is amazing. Much better than stock and definitely much better than when I installed it the first time.

    Reverse is a bit harder than it was in stock form, but it’s not a problem. I have actually slipped it into reverse a couple of times while I was trying to get into first at a stop light, so I’m happy with the added effort it takes now.

    The whole thing is a major improvement, that’s for sure. It resembles the transmission of my BMW M3 now.
     
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