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How does your 3rd gen handle driving in snow?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by 84 Yota, Dec 14, 2017.

  1. Dec 16, 2017 at 4:19 PM
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    phsycle

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    I live in Utah. Over 500” annually (lake effect snow). My folks’ live on a 2 mile private dirt road that has to be maintained all winter. They use a F250 diesel to push snow. Weight is weight. Relative weight distribution has less relevance than overall weight. In deep, heavy snow? Sure, lighter vehicles will win there. Snow that 99% of us drive on? Weight is an advantage, no matter how you dice it. You ever seen a highway plow truck get sideways when they hit slush? Nope.

    Your tractor argument doesn’t hold water, either. Are you saying the tractor never lost traction pushing snow? If the engine couldn’t overcome the (paltry) coef of friction on snow, it must’ve been a pretty weak engine. You needed weight (traction) behind that plow to get the snow moving.
     
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  2. Dec 16, 2017 at 6:26 PM
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    Yes I’ve seen several plow trucks stuck and have even used to the tractor to help pull them out. There’s a reason I use a tractor instead of bobcat for example, bobcat weighs more and becomes a boat on snow.

    Old tractor was a 30hp new one is a 60hp, more weight would have bogged it even more. Only thing weight is good for is momentum and at that point your already sliding.
     
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  3. Dec 17, 2017 at 5:04 AM
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    You used a 60-hp tractor to pull out a 30k lb commercial truck?? Ok.

    Glad to see it has come to name calling. Good luck to you.
     
  4. Dec 17, 2017 at 5:49 AM
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    Northern MD received some accumulation the other day and I decided to inadvertently test some of the nanny controls. I was on a infrequently used country road when I went into a corner with a little too much gusto and the back end got away from me. After some frantic steering corrections, I overshot my mark and was headed towards a drainage ditch. The controls took over and straightened the the truck out. I was amazed. Tail between my legs I tried to review my mistakes and vowed not to be such a chooch. I also need to price out a winch...:D
     
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  5. Dec 17, 2017 at 6:26 AM
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    Welcome from Bozeman! :wave: whereabouts are you at?
    Runners are awesome in the snow. Had a few crazy drives into work this year and my Runner has kept me safe every time. As far as trucks go no truck is going to be great in the snow unless you get some weight in the bed. Sand bags, bale of hay, something to weigh down the rear end. My 99 Taco was always a little squirrelly in the snow weight or not. Just learned to anticipate it. Ex's 1 ton Dodge diesel was awful to drive in AK...until we put a 400lb fishing net in the bed.
     
  6. Dec 18, 2017 at 8:03 AM
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    84 Yota

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    Thanks! We are about an hour SW of you near Ennis. Our weekly runs to Bozeman and driving through the canyon have really made me appreciate the handling of the 4Runner.
     
  7. Dec 18, 2017 at 5:08 PM
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    Ahhh...191...yeah, that can be interesting driving. Take it slow, watch the curves and beware the icy fog that covers the road.
    Runner has taken me safely down that stretch many times. And my 99 Taco too.
    A little weight in the bed, some aggressive winter tires, and a light foot are all you need. Play around with air pressure in the tires too. With the diesel be wary of the turbo kicking in. Can easily cause you to spin out and lose control.
    This guy learned the hard way that MT roads are not to be taken lightly. Helped pull him out of the road after he tried climbing the guardrail in front of Red Cliff CG earlier this year.
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  8. Dec 18, 2017 at 5:10 PM
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  10. Dec 18, 2017 at 6:44 PM
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    Not sure if I'd compare the wife's 4runner limited to taco? Isn't the 4runner limited an AWD system with a torsen in it with a modified variant of 4hi and 4lo?

    Our tacoma is great in 4x4 but our audi quattro (aka, rebranded torsen awd system) runs rings around it in the snow. That torsen differential is a great awd system. When you run the brake assisted control with the torsen that audi or the 4runner limited run, those really take off and handle great in the snow. When we get 6 inches or so on the ground, I always try take the audi out for some fun. Anything more than that, I need the ground clearance and take the tacoma. but the torsen system is a whole different kind of capable in the snow. And a different kind of fun.

    I guess I just wouldn't expect the type of handling from a tacoma's full time 4x4 system as an AWD drive system controlled by a torsen.
     
  11. Dec 18, 2017 at 6:59 PM
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    I live in Bozeangels and have been having a blast driving in the snow. The stock tires were ok, but I upgraded to Cooper Discover AT3s. I've had them on a lot of Toyotas and they are great. The 4x4 system is great, the LSD is great, and the overall performance is fantastic in the snow. Have fun!

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  12. Dec 18, 2017 at 7:15 PM
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    We don't usually have much snow in Atlanta so this was a first for me. We drove up to Asheville, NC, during the snow storm that came through weekend before last and Asheville ended up with 10" of snow by Saturday night. This picture was from when we arrived on Friday. We drove it around Saturday and Sunday and only had to put it in 4WD High a couple of times to get up steep roads, but really didn't have any issues at all.

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  13. Dec 18, 2017 at 7:44 PM
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    What is this "snow" you speak of? Ahh yes, the white cold stuff. Ayup, we used to get that here in Colorado, back in the old days...

    There are really two types of "snow driving": (1) driving in deep snow either after a fresh snow-fall, or on forest service roads, and (2) driving on snow-covered, slushy, or icy streets and/or highways. The Tacoma is great at the former (given decent tires), and can be really good at the later (given decent tires).

    Driving any vehicle in snow is mostly about tires. Yes, different vehicles handle differently, and some people have much better skills than others, but put good snow tires on almost any vehicle and it will do pretty well, but all things being equal (i.e. control for tires and driving skill) all-wheel drive vehicles like Audi and Subaru will outperform the Tacoma on slippery roads. Your Tacoma will crush said all-wheel drives, however, if high clearance is needed. All-wheel drives will outperform the Tacoma on slippery roads because the Tacoma has (a) a higher center of gravity, (b) true 4-wheel drive which is better off-road but not as good on slippery roads, and (c) imbalance of weight front to rear. I live at 8,500 feet, and winter is usually long here. I always run studded snow tires - as do most people who live up here and commute down 3,000 feet to work, and then back up at the end of the day. The canyon down which I commute also runs along side a creek, which increases ice on the road under certain conditions. With studded snows the Tacoma is really good in the winter, both on-road and off-road. But if it didn't snow a lot here it wouldn't be worth the hassle of the noise of the studs, and cost of the tires. Lastly, if ground clearance were not an issue for me, and I only drove on-road, I'd be in an Audi or Subaru. I've had a couple of Audi sporty-type sedans, and with studded snows those cars were friggin amazing. Some all-season tires do pretty well in the snow, but no all-season can touch a true winter tire (studded or non-studded).
     
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  14. Dec 19, 2017 at 7:53 PM
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    Never mind.
     
  15. Dec 20, 2017 at 12:47 AM
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    Haha! Thanks for info i was finally able to do some "frosty donuts "
     
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  17. Dec 20, 2017 at 3:38 AM
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    Had some snow and ice in NJ last week and the Tacoma did really well. I have the stock tires on my TRDOR and only about 2500 miles on them.
    Better than my wife’s Subaru Outback with stock tires. It was a lot better than my Jeep Wrangler was(although that was on MT tires which were only good in really deep snow)
     
  18. Dec 20, 2017 at 6:57 AM
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    I'm running KO2 for about 5 years now (had a 2nd gen before) with lot of snow here in north Quebec, never had a problem. 4x4 most of the time.

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    Sounds like the canyon run from Morrison to Evergreen (or Conifer). One of my favorite drives of all time! Maybe not so much when it's slippery...if we ever get snow, I am excited to see for myself how the new taco handles the fluffy stuff. cheers! :cheers:
     
  20. Dec 20, 2017 at 8:57 AM
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    Boulder Canyon actually, but there are plenty of other canyons around here all of which make for good driving! Its actually supposed to snow tonight! :cheers: to you too - powder is coming - pow! pow!
     
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