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Poll: Knowing it might void your engine warranty, would you run an aftermarket air filter?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Stocklocker, Dec 30, 2017.

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Knowing it might void your warranty, would you use an aftermarket air filter?

  1. Yes. The benefits are worth the risk

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    10.8%
  2. No. It is not worth the risk

    405 vote(s)
    89.2%
  1. Jan 2, 2018 at 9:11 AM
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    AllisFan

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    Kind of a guilty until proven innocent thing.

    They are not going to spend the time and money to test it and say it doesn't meet their spec. You have to do that on your own, between that and lawyer fees it isn't worth it for most.
     
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  2. Jan 2, 2018 at 9:22 AM
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    Of course. Any warranty inspection will do that but it will only show the filter didn't do it's job. It won't show the actual performance of the filter, it will only show that the filter failed to do it's one job.
    The critical part that I think most are missing is, TOYOTA filter, TOYOTA engine. No matter what fails, TOYOTA is at fault and will cover it. It's that simple. It's even better if you let TOYOTA do the maintenance during the warranty period! This way, there is zero question on blame! After the warranty? All those guys who are smarter than the engineers, have at it haha!
     
  3. Jan 2, 2018 at 9:28 AM
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    All motors are susceptible to failure from a faulty air filter. What are you getting at? Makes no sense.
     
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  4. Jan 2, 2018 at 9:36 AM
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    Barring neglect obviously.

    I ain't driving an hour plus for an oil change though.
     
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  5. Jan 2, 2018 at 10:52 AM
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    An air filter is not modified. Maybe a new ram air, but a lot of people are knocking K&N and AFE drop in filters as a "modification" and I think that's ridiculous.
     
  6. Jan 2, 2018 at 10:57 AM
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    The Tacoma air intake design utilizes a simple paper filter and has its own permanent carbon filter built into the intake. They also offer a TRD oiless filter made by AFE. For them to get nit-picky about Fram, K&N, and AFE offerings is pretty weak. Every car I've ever driven hasn't had issues with air filters. Its pretty ridiculous to make the claim. Makes me think the engine is more fragile than everything else out on the road.
     
  7. Jan 2, 2018 at 11:05 AM
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    Adding anything that voids warranty is not worth it. Once the warranty is done, knock your socks off!
     
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  8. Jan 2, 2018 at 11:12 AM
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  9. Jan 2, 2018 at 11:41 AM
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    Agree with this for Taco's.

    While I do think Toyota's Warranty (posted in first post, is ridiculous, as a replacement drop in filter in the stock housing that meets factory spec is not a modification- and just another con of owning a Taco. I regret buying mine, and resale value is the only positive thing I have found so far. The quirts with the power/shifting/diff leaks/rust on frame/crappiest low beam projector headlights ever, uncomfortable seats, crappy plastic front end/bumper, rear bumpers Other than those things, It's ok. at least i will get a good trade in value. :p

    My experience with filters that flow more air you will always have a chance of more dirt getting through, If your drag racing and NEED more power, quicker times then yes having more flow in and out will get you that. If you want to do that for everyday driving and recreation, your just wasting your money. You won't feel or see any benefits, other than a loud sucking sound, and we all know the only time we want to hear that....

    It's like this to me I can but a plain recommended furnace filter for $2.00 that will flow air great and it doesn't need changed for two months. Or I can get the super best high allergen $25 filter that stops just about everything but air flow suffers some, and it clogs up usually in a month that stops the furnace from working due to insufficient air flow. Since it cost more and does a better job at stopping dirt and dust and all my neighbors, friends say it's the best, I should get it in reality- it really doesn't work great and cost me five times a much to maintain, causes failures.
     
  10. Jan 2, 2018 at 11:52 AM
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    an over oiled filter will foul a MAF sensor, if you do not follow the cleaning/oiling procedure properly they can void warranty work due to improper owner screw up, even if its a TRD filter. there are guidelines for everything do not follow them and pay the price.
     
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    It pains me to see this much reading comprehension fail.
     
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    The pre oil filters are fine, never had a MAF issue in 550,000 miles, it's because people oil them themselves and put too much oil on their filters, human error,
    You can buy a pre oiled filter for KN if you can't oil it yourself
     
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    ^^This. Stun Gun, you have a gift.
     
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    Dude. They are not getting "nit picky" about aftermarket filters, except in the event there is a problem. Then, just like ANY OEM vehicle manufacturer, they will figure out what happened. If they determine that the air filter was the problem of not filtering out the dirt, and it was not a OEM Toyota filter, then there could be a problem granting warranty. If it is a Toyota filter and it was not doing it's job, then there would be no problem.

    Let's see if Ford, Chevrolet, Dodge, Nissan, etc, would grant engine warranty if you take it in with an AFE filter that was not performing correctly and let a bunch of dirt into the engine. They won't grant warranty either. No company in their right mind would, because it's not the engine's fault and they didn't make or spec the filter!

    I've heard of exactly ONE case in a 3rd gen Tacoma....
     
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  17. Jan 2, 2018 at 12:35 PM
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    I can explain it to them but I can't understand it for them...
     
  18. Jan 2, 2018 at 12:37 PM
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    You new to the internet?

    10-15 years ago it would have came to blows over spark plugs, oil filters and engine oil if people were not separated by computers like every other day.
     
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  19. Jan 2, 2018 at 12:40 PM
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    That’s brilliant. I’m gonna use that IRL.
     
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