New commercial making fun of the Colorado

And when you move to 2017, the Colorado has 0 recalls and the Tacoma retains the 2 recalls for the differential and engine. 2018 is too new still.

 

If you need help selling your Tacoma let me know. Resale is in your favor, unlike GM

 

As for reported complaints:

https://www.carcomplaints.com/Chevrolet/Colorado/2016/
116 for the Colorado. Biggest complaint categories are 21 transmission and 11 engine complaints.

https://www.carcomplaints.com/Toyota/Tacoma/2016/
210 complaints on the Tacoma. 41 for transmission and 29 for engine.

 

You are giving us articles from 2016?

 

A) I sold both those trucks years ago. B) Resale is higher on Tacoma but cost of purchase is higher as well. It doesn't help you to get $2000 more on resale if you spent $5000 more on purchase.

 

That's the more recent year with complete data. The recalls for 2017 are there as well. 2 for Tacoma, 0 for Colorado.

It's also the 1st year with both the newest gen Tacoma AND newest gen Colorado. Only fair comparison.

 

I never understood why everyone gets their knickers in a twist over recalls. In my mind, they are a great thing. The manufacturer is admitting there's and issue and fixing it on their dime. The alternative being that they deny any issues and stick you with the bill... I couldn't care less if they recalled the entire truck over the time I own it... free new parts.

Think about the frame recall on previous generations. There's owners out there with a +10 year old truck in the rust belt, getting a brand new frame on their truck, while there are how many Ford owners out there with Swiss cheesed frames?

 

Generally, I agree. I would want free new parts anytime I could get them. I also would want the company to fix problems on their dime and before they happen to me and leave me stranded or hurt somewhere. However, they also indicate quality control problems. It could be looked at multiple ways. And for people who depend on their vehicles, having more issues instead of less issues is a problem. It costs people valuable time and money to have to take their vehicles into dealerships to get work done.

 

People dont need to convince me which truck is a better buy. I know which truck fits me. Little background. Owned 2010 sr5 paid 24700 owned 7 years. Sold Sept 17 for 17500. My gm trucks and cars I sold don't compete. I am more concerned about the people that are so confused than I am about gm.

 

I am not trying to convince you. You spend your money however you want. I just correct false statements when I see them. There are a lot of people who come to these sites for information before buying expensive vehicles and they should know the truth.

Vehicles and their respective companies change constantly. Buying a truck in 2018 is a lot different than 1998. Things have changed.

 

I don't want to give Toyota a free pass on the frame issue, there is something to it. But I think part of the problem is Toyota in the 80s and 90s improved so much that they set a bar that makes it probably impossible not to disappoint. So I agree generally with your point. My experience is very poor with Ford in the 1990s replaced with a Toyota that was bulletproof. And talk about after sale support, under an unlimited recall I got a new steering relay rod and an alignment when the thing was 20 years old. My Taco is comparably less reliable than my old truck but still I can't say it's a bad truck. Just a let down that it's built cheaper than I expected.

 

I have made no false statements, quit quoting me. Don't let the door hit ya

 

Me to. I went into my pick-up buying journey wanting a mini-duramax and I quickly found no use for the diesel over gasoline for my everyday use. Overall, I was not impressed at. The interior felt dated and cheap, I could not reach in the bed to grab a rake off the bed floor and i'm 5-11. We all know the resale value is garbage, and the final kick - no MT. Then I looked at used Tacomas and really found a 2015 Off-road MT I liked. However, the price was extremely close to a brand new truck, so I researched this avenue. There were multiple MT's in new Tacomas in my area, the rest is history. This is a great little truck and I am very pleased with my purchase.

 

Not to mention the rear crossmember on GM trucks that seems to disintegrate every few years, or the abs pump located on the frame below the drivers door. Neither have been recalled, but they are shitty designs the customer is left fixing at their expense.

 

When you claimed that the Tacoma is the most reliable truck and that it is better financially to buy than others due to resale, those were half truths at best. I followed those up with supporting evidence to the contrary.

 

Not sure it is correct to say "false statement." I love Tacomas...they fit my needs. But their best feature IMO is resale value. I have had an '11, '14 and now a '17. Two TRD Sports, and now a Pro. All 3 have been leases b/c I only put about 9K miles per year...perfectly maintained. When I turn them in, they are the best truck on the lot...but I'm a sucker for new trucks. Each time I do it, I sign a new 36 month lease, put zero down and my payment is less (slightly...7 or 8 bucks/month) than the prior truck. TFS increased the resid value and lowered the "money factor" (???) on my current lease, which made that savings possible.

Not saying you're wrong...I have just had a much better experience. I also haven't tried this with a GM vehicle...shorts are still in a not over the bail-out. But that is just me being petty. Please keep posting your analysis. I love it. (maybe this should be in a finance or lease v. buy string?)

 

Lol whatever man. It's an opinion just like the loudest complainer is not a fact teller

 

Having had both a GM Twin and a Tacoma, I can unequivocally state that the Tacoma has been more reliable. We had a boatload of issues with our baby d-max. Sensors, tranny, self releasing hoses, rattles, leaks, and so on and so on. Does the GM have more features? Yes. Does the GM feel more powerful? Yes. Does the GM transmission hunt less? No.

Some of these people recommending other brands best have owned one before opening their whine holes. Having had fleet trucks for years - and a sizable fleet at that, I will flat out laugh in the face of anyone recommending a Ford.

Yeah yeah, the rear ends of the Tacomas are whiny - guess what, they've been that way for awhile. But to send someone to another marque without having been an owner....give me a break.

 

I agree with the bailout thing. I hate bailouts. However, GM today is an entirely different company than the GM from 2008. I don't think any of the executives today are leftover from 2008. Besides that, there have been a lot of companies, auto companies as well, that have received variations of a bailout over the years. If I boycotted every company that received government assistance, I would be buying solely from do it yourselfers online.

 

Ownership is a false form of "experience." You are experiencing 1 truck out of the hundreds of thousands they make. 1 truck can have problems when the rest don't. Or 1 truck can be flawless when the rest suck. A singular experience only holds so much weight. Owning/driving a truck is good to gauge personal comfort levels, styling preferences, etc. But basing your opinions of reliability on 1 experience would make any statistician cringe.

And again, I am not advocating for either truck or telling people what to buy. I only tried to correct a few statements. There are a lot of things about the Tacoma I like. But hoping it will be reliable, or more reliable than other makes, simply because they used to be reliable 10 years ago, or because 1 person had a great experience with 1 truck or a bad experience with another, doesn't make sense. Enron used to be a good stock to buy... until it wasn't. Things change.