Must drive in ice tonight. Need help.

So he doesn't have 2HI?

 

go away lol.

I meant to say good winters or studs.

 

4WD Hi still helps on ice. Not at all for emergency stopping or turning, but can help the vehicle get moving as the front wheels of a pickup tend to have more weight on them, so more traction. Another benefit of 4WD Hi (on ice) is the engine braking will be acting on the front wheels as well, making slowing down the truck easier without hitting the brakes, as well as more controllable than if the engine braking was just dragging the rear wheels in 2wd.

 

yes if you can ride the driverside tires closer to the centerline you will have some added traction, of course watch out for oncoming traffic. But if you are on a lone highway/street the road traffic kicks all the gravel and grit towards the center and outside part of the lane so which ever feels safest use it to your advantage. Down shift accordingly but not too far down or it will torque shift you and make your rear end slide sideways.

 

Drive straight and don't excessively accelerate or brake and drive slow, you can do it in 2wd with Traction Control off. Be smart, don't be dumb, and you'll be fine.

 

Exactly, also dont try being a rally racer or Tokyo Drift....

 

Zero reason to even bother trying it in 2wd. Put the truck in 4hi, drive slower, maneuver gently, brake sooner and softer.

 

Well, did he make it?

 

Somebody here has 2lo. That’s pretty cool too.

 

Yep, made it! Roads weren't as bad as the news/media was making them out to be.... Slow and steady in 4hi. Not many cars out tonight. These icy nights are often creepy with how empty the roads are.

 

Worth saying again as mentioned by Stocklocker, 4wd distributes the engine braking over all 4 tires. In my old Toy on 35's I dropped a gear on a slight downhill in 2wd and it instantly sent the truck into a compression skid. The skidding tire has to lead so around it came. I ordered skinny tires right away after that for winter and have always been careful in regards to engine braking since.

 

Already winning with the manual! I like ATRAC/VSC off w/either 2WD/4 as needed or 4WD all the way! The weight on the front does help a lot with both acceleration and engine braking. I've found the nose can keep going on its own path toward signs/curb when not in 4WD when its really greazy.

 

Same thing was happening around here. Is funny how many people are scared to drive just because the rear wheels slide around a bit. It's really not that hard, just gotta be careful and know what you're dealing with. Some of the rainstorms we get around here provide worse driving conditions than the occasional ice patches that developed yesterday and yet schools are closed and most people are staying home from work.

 

Should be some good youtube icy road vids coming out in next couple days!

 

Those are my favorite thing to watch at work! That and road rage compilations.

 

This is absolutely FALSE. Why are subarus seen everywhere in snowy climates?? Ever seen a Prius make it up the mountain through a snowstorm without chains?? Because I see Foresters and Outbacks do it all the time.

Absolutely 4wd is better on icy roads, I personally go with 2wd and no traction control because I have a lot of experience on ice and I like kicking out the rear end and practicing controlled power slides

But when shits really coming down and I'm just trying to get back to the lodge in the middle of a storm of course I'll use 4H! And you can immediately feel the difference in control.

What I hope you were trying to say is "4wd will do nothing for stopping distance on ice"... that's actually true.

But for turning, engine braking, correcting oversteeer and especially uphill traction... of course 4 wheels having power is superior to only 2.

 

yep. It gets so bad here sometimes even 4hi slips all four tires...have to throw dirt/gravel out to get any traction to get home. But that doesnt happen very often.

 

Solid ice, not snowy roads dude. Like a bridge that turns to ice rink ice. THAT is when it does not matter how many wheels are driven. Regular slick, snowy roads, sure. 4WD is a big help at everything. When you hit a bridge or black ice? You had better get over to the curb and creep along finding whatever traction is available.

I was on a road one time and it was pure ice. I actually coasted to a stop and because the road was crowned in the middle, slid sideways... from a stop... with my brakes on... to the edge of the road. That is the ice where 4WD does not help. Here - watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JVDvMWJ_OQ and let me know how much "4WD is going to help lol.
Another
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7-ojGMimsA

 

All this video shows is a few people that don't know how to handle ice.... why did the hybrid sonata make it up without a problem but the Santa Fe didn't?? Are you saying a hybrid sonata with skinny eco tires is superior on ice?? Of course not...

And the guy wasn't asking about driving on a frozen lake, he was asking about driving home on icy roads so yes absolutely 4wd will help him and its a moronic to suggest he'd be better off trying in 2wd like some people here are saying...

Have you ever driven on a frozen lake?? If you have you'd admit 4wd STILL makes a difference, a BIG one. In fact 4wd power slides are one of my favorite things to do and you can only really safely pull them off on solid ice. Try it sometime, get on a frozen lake and try 2wd power slides.... then do it again in 4wd and try to tell me you didn't have more control.

In a 2wd power slide you have to really finesse the throttle and even keep the slide going longer to give you time to lightly input opposite input and LIGHT throttle to correct. Otherwise you'll just spin out or swing it around into a completely opposite slide. In 4WD I'll get into a slide and can go FULL oppo with heavy throttle and all it'll do is straighten me out. In 4WD I can enter slides at a much higher speed and still be controlled with much more forgiveness on opposite inputs, 2WD and even the slightest overcorrection or misapplication of throttle throws you out of control.

I think its very useful to practice power slides because it gives you a lot more confidence when your truck ends up sideways on accident. Most people overreact and end up in a ditch, but when you've thrown your own truck sideways hundreds of times its a lot less scary and you tend to innately react more appropriately because you already have the muscle memory of correcting slides hundreds of times before. That's why I never miss an opportunity to mess around in frozen parking lots or frozen lakes when I'm in minnesota

Edit: ok its clear to me now you've never actually messed around on solid ice. The second video you edited in proves my point, why is the jeep using 4wd?? Because in 2wd he wouldn't have been able to even make it halfway up the cul-de-sac, but in 4wd he was dancing out in a fairly controlled manner and if he had kept using correct throttle inputs he could've even avoided the curb as he did a couple times. But its clear he was just fucking around for fun lol.

 

Fuel up, make sure there's a blanket or sleeping bag in there, stow some bottled water, swing by a hardware store and get a couple bags of salt to add weight in the rear, and spread the salt on your driveway when you get home.