1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site
    Quick Links: CEL ?/input Which magnaflow will not be too loud? New to Me 1999 SR5 3.4 thermostat Led replacement bulbs Windshield fluid sprayer nozzels

Manual Hub Conversion for the 1st Gen Tacoma & 3rd Gen 4Runner

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by DJB1, Nov 12, 2016.

Page 6 of 9
  1. Jan 22, 2018 at 4:21 PM
    #101
    PJL

    #101
    PJL Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2017
    Member:
    #214348
    Messages:
    155
    Gender:
    Male
    Baltimore, MD
    Vehicle:
    2003 xcab Tacoma 4x4
    Stock
    I have the j shifter TG. BTW how do like that truetrac? You have it the rear as well?
     
    PJL, Jan 22, 2018
    #101
  2. Jan 22, 2018 at 4:29 PM
    #102
    License2Ill

    #102
    License2Ill Woke like a Coma Toyota Tacoma

    Joined:
    May 20, 2012
    Member:
    #79174
    Messages:
    2,253
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ian
    It's a dry heat thou, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2004 SC'd 5VZ DC 5spd 4x4 TRD.GOV
    Bailing wire & Duct tape
    Just the front, e-locker in the rear.

    I like it alot. And I wheel pretty hard. It took a little getting used to.

    If your driving in 4wd, and you take your hands off the steering wheel around a slight bend in the road the steering wheel will want to center and pull you straight ahead. A little getting used to. But I barely use the e-locker anymore...
     
    License2Ill, Jan 22, 2018
    #102
  3. Jan 22, 2018 at 4:38 PM
    #103
    PJL

    #103
    PJL Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2017
    Member:
    #214348
    Messages:
    155
    Gender:
    Male
    Baltimore, MD
    Vehicle:
    2003 xcab Tacoma 4x4
    Stock
    Truetrac or open diff would be the same result right? 2WD
     
    PJL, Jan 22, 2018
    #103
  4. Jan 22, 2018 at 4:50 PM
    #104
    License2Ill

    #104
    License2Ill Woke like a Coma Toyota Tacoma

    Joined:
    May 20, 2012
    Member:
    #79174
    Messages:
    2,253
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ian
    It's a dry heat thou, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2004 SC'd 5VZ DC 5spd 4x4 TRD.GOV
    Bailing wire & Duct tape
    In 4wd if the actuator fails? No. Open, you'll have at least a "useable" driver's side front axle.
    Supposedly, no front drive with a truetrac with one side of the diff freewheeling.
     
    License2Ill, Jan 22, 2018
    #104
  5. Jan 22, 2018 at 11:59 PM
    #105
    DJB1

    #105
    DJB1 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2013
    Member:
    #105835
    Messages:
    2,223
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dave
    SLC, UT
    Vehicle:
    2003 Regular Cab 4X4 5MT
    Yes, the inner CV shafts are the same either way so you can use your existing front differential.
     
    DJB1, Jan 22, 2018
    #105
    Dalandser[QUOTED] likes this.
  6. Feb 14, 2018 at 5:35 AM
    #106
    high n mighty

    #106
    high n mighty Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2015
    Member:
    #150031
    Messages:
    457
    Gender:
    Male
    Oshawa Ontario
    Vehicle:
    01 camo taco
    Not sure if it was mentioned already or not but what vehicle did you get the knuckle assemblys from?
     
    high n mighty, Feb 14, 2018
    #106
  7. Feb 14, 2018 at 6:50 AM
    #107
    BartMaster1234

    #107
    BartMaster1234 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2016
    Member:
    #195197
    Messages:
    45,848
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tyler
    Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    1998 PreRunner 4x4 2.7l Supercharged
    Flux Capacitor
    1995-2000 Tacoma - Toyota stopped using manual hubs after that.
     
    BartMaster1234, Feb 14, 2018
    #107
    DJB1[OP] and tony2018 like this.
  8. Feb 14, 2018 at 7:27 AM
    #108
    elnip

    #108
    elnip Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2012
    Member:
    #86436
    Messages:
    502
    Gender:
    Male
    LC,NM
    Vehicle:
    '98 Tacoma TRD S/C'd / /'16 T4R Trail
    Taco SC'd, fuel mods, Supra TT MAF, TRD Headers, Water Meth Injection, Tundra Brake upgrade Trail w/URD EL Headers. JFR EL Y-pipe, URD Hi Clearance cat back, KDMAX Tune, 4.56's

    Where did those indicator icons come from? Looks familiar but can't place them..me like.
     
    elnip, Feb 14, 2018
    #108
  9. Feb 14, 2018 at 9:09 AM
    #109
    BartMaster1234

    #109
    BartMaster1234 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2016
    Member:
    #195197
    Messages:
    45,848
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tyler
    Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    1998 PreRunner 4x4 2.7l Supercharged
    Flux Capacitor
    I custom made them in Photoshop CS6. It's several layers of plastic projector transparency glued together.

    The icon is the 4WD emblem from a Toyota Rav4.

    gdfgfd.jpg
     
    BartMaster1234, Feb 14, 2018
    #109
    Dalandser, tony2018 and elnip[QUOTED] like this.
  10. Feb 14, 2018 at 9:25 AM
    #110
    elnip

    #110
    elnip Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2012
    Member:
    #86436
    Messages:
    502
    Gender:
    Male
    LC,NM
    Vehicle:
    '98 Tacoma TRD S/C'd / /'16 T4R Trail
    Taco SC'd, fuel mods, Supra TT MAF, TRD Headers, Water Meth Injection, Tundra Brake upgrade Trail w/URD EL Headers. JFR EL Y-pipe, URD Hi Clearance cat back, KDMAX Tune, 4.56's
    Well done sir!
     
    elnip, Feb 14, 2018
    #110
    DJB1[OP] likes this.
  11. Feb 15, 2018 at 11:37 AM
    #111
    BartMaster1234

    #111
    BartMaster1234 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2016
    Member:
    #195197
    Messages:
    45,848
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tyler
    Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    1998 PreRunner 4x4 2.7l Supercharged
    Flux Capacitor
    Thanks!
     
    BartMaster1234, Feb 15, 2018
    #111
  12. Jul 21, 2018 at 10:39 PM
    #112
    DJB1

    #112
    DJB1 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2013
    Member:
    #105835
    Messages:
    2,223
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dave
    SLC, UT
    Vehicle:
    2003 Regular Cab 4X4 5MT
    01tcaseshifter.jpg

    I hadn't considered the pushbutton transfer case when I started this thread, because at the time I thought 1st gen Tacomas and 3rd gen 4Runners only had J-shift transfer cases. I had a great phone conversation with @Buck18, whose 1st gen double-cab had bad vibes on the freeway and was constantly munching CV axles.

    He set me straight on pushbutton transfer cases and it was quickly obvious to both of us that it's best to leave the ADD actuator in working order if you have one of those. That cute little 4WD button is the only way to shift in and out of 2-HI and 4-HI while moving.

    It's a little less adaptable than the J-shift transfer case, which can do that with or without the ADD actuator. But he will still be able to unlock the hubs for normal daily driving and greatly reduce drivetrain vibrations and CV axle wear. I have updated post #1 with the info.
     
    DJB1, Jul 21, 2018
    #112
    kevinnnn, Dalandser, TacomaJunkie8691 and 2 others like this.
  13. Jul 27, 2018 at 5:14 PM
    #113
    License2Ill

    #113
    License2Ill Woke like a Coma Toyota Tacoma

    Joined:
    May 20, 2012
    Member:
    #79174
    Messages:
    2,253
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ian
    It's a dry heat thou, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2004 SC'd 5VZ DC 5spd 4x4 TRD.GOV
    Bailing wire & Duct tape
    Yeah 2-4 trucks use both actuators in tandem afaik. Not one without the other.
     
    License2Ill, Jul 27, 2018
    #113
  14. Jul 27, 2018 at 5:26 PM
    #114
    tony2018

    #114
    tony2018 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2014
    Member:
    #123866
    Messages:
    5,288
    Gender:
    Male
    Its super rare as balls to find manual hubs for sale and in decent condition. Best of luck
     
    tony2018, Jul 27, 2018
    #114
  15. Jul 27, 2018 at 7:20 PM
    #115
    License2Ill

    #115
    License2Ill Woke like a Coma Toyota Tacoma

    Joined:
    May 20, 2012
    Member:
    #79174
    Messages:
    2,253
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ian
    It's a dry heat thou, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2004 SC'd 5VZ DC 5spd 4x4 TRD.GOV
    Bailing wire & Duct tape
    Manual hubs can be bought new for around $140 a piece. All the manual hub parts (hubs/ bearings) are acaavaila & can be pressed into ADD spindles.
     
    License2Ill, Jul 27, 2018
    #115
  16. Jul 27, 2018 at 8:11 PM
    #116
    tony2018

    #116
    tony2018 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2014
    Member:
    #123866
    Messages:
    5,288
    Gender:
    Male
    yeah, they all add up though and it would suck to find out you're missing something when trying to piece it together. I guess I'll keep the ADD knuckles as spares and try to find time to rebuild them. Now what to do about the ADD axles....
     
    tony2018, Jul 27, 2018
    #116
  17. Jul 27, 2018 at 8:22 PM
    #117
    License2Ill

    #117
    License2Ill Woke like a Coma Toyota Tacoma

    Joined:
    May 20, 2012
    Member:
    #79174
    Messages:
    2,253
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ian
    It's a dry heat thou, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2004 SC'd 5VZ DC 5spd 4x4 TRD.GOV
    Bailing wire & Duct tape
    You going manual hubs?
     
    License2Ill, Jul 27, 2018
    #117
  18. Aug 6, 2018 at 8:06 PM
    #118
    Joker

    #118
    Joker Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2015
    Member:
    #162018
    Messages:
    25
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2004 Tacoma TRD
    ARB Bull bar, a Firestik, and a fiberglass cap.
    I did the manual swap on my 1990 4R when the time came to redo the front bearings. Found a set in a junkyard after having looked for about 6 months. Those faded red dials caught my eye from across the yard and there I was, yanking them off, spindles and all with hand tools from an IFS Pickup sitting on old tires and wheels. Even though they seemed okay in spite of rotting in the yard, I got a rebuild kit from the Wabbit and went to town one day. Before doing the swap, I tested MPG with three successive tanks of gas, and then with three post-swap. I got *maybe* 1-2 MPG more, but the real win was taking stress off the front end.

    Great write up!
     
    Joker, Aug 6, 2018
    #118
    DJB1[OP] likes this.
  19. Mar 11, 2019 at 9:39 PM
    #119
    Laxtoy

    #119
    Laxtoy Dog is my backseat driver

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2015
    Member:
    #148610
    Messages:
    1,316
    Gender:
    Male
    Maltby, WA
    Vehicle:
    99 3.4l 5 speed 4WD 2023 Limited DCLB 4WD
    Fox 2.5 DSC resi CO's w/ 700lb King Coils, Camburg uca's, T-100 rear leafs, 13WL Tundra brakes, 1" 4crawler body lift, 295/75/16 Hankook MT, Ruff Stuff u bolt flip, 10" Fox LSC resi shocks turned back on custom mounts, home built rear high clearance bumper with dual swing outs, Diode Dynamics SSC2 Pro rear floods, Skid Row front and transfer case skid, home built transmission skid, Mercerfab sliders, home built front bumper, Badlands Apex 12k winch with synth line, 4.56's, ARB rear locker, home built rack with CVT Mt. Shasta, eBay snorkel, Sierra LEDs 20" dual amber/white light bar, Diode Dynamics SS3 Max amber fogs, Mini D2S projector retrofit, Blue Sea ML-ACR, dual Odyssey PC1200's, 100 watt solar panel, 20 plate heat exchanger/home built shower kit
    Bumping this- just did manual hub swap, completely negated the add system so used the manual diff tube and got rid of the add tube/actuator all together.

    Lost the dash indicator, and I want it just for shits.

    Truck the manual hubs came out of and went back into are nearly identical mechanically besides the ADD and manual hub difference

    Manual hubs went into 99 5vzfe 5 speed 4wd SR5 Tacoma

    Manual hubs came out of of 97 5vzfe 5 speed 4wd LX Tacoma

    Anyone have any idea on how to get that indicator working again?

    I read this entire thread, some mentioned a 4wd computer under the dash, is this a part I could swap with the donor truck?
     
    Laxtoy, Mar 11, 2019
    #119
  20. Mar 12, 2019 at 10:36 AM
    #120
    DJB1

    #120
    DJB1 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2013
    Member:
    #105835
    Messages:
    2,223
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dave
    SLC, UT
    Vehicle:
    2003 Regular Cab 4X4 5MT
    I'm sorry I can't help you with the dash indicator. I never cared about it working because if the hubs are locked and the transfer case is shifted out of 2HI, it's definitely in 4WD.
     
    DJB1, Mar 12, 2019
    #120
Page 6 of 9

Products Discussed in

AISIN FHT-019 4WD Free Wheel (Locking) Hub - Compatible with Select Toyota Tacoma
$123.95
To Top