3rd gen manual trans characteristics.

I'm on a Hyperstrada and after the initial breakin service, my next scheduled service isn't until 10k. The service intervals on at least those are pretty amazing tbh.

 

This sums up my experience as well.

 

That is right around my yearly mileage. I'm becoming a fan of 24k intervals. Viffer folks say they check them once due to break in and forget about it after that.

I might look at a 2v Duc if I can wrap my head around living without big hard cases.

We'll see what happens.

 

My exact thought! It really comes on the pipe and hits the powerband at about 3500rpm. Like the old days when I first drove a VTEC car.

 

I tried with both Torque and Carista. With neither, I could not seem to find the ECU data. Fusion might be the only one? I'm trying to resist another paid app.

 

I'll see what I can find with my TorquePro tomorrow...its soggy out at the moment

 

Hopefully you can find it!

 

Exactly what it reminded me of too

 

Over my couple of decades of driving sticks I've had other manual trucks, diesel cars, and fast cars. Each different. What I find is my Taco is a piece of work for being in 1 and 2 in the cold. Feels like I need to feather more, and like it is slipping at times. Once warm, that changes. My driveway is a steep hill to exit so every cold morning I get to feel it. My bigger complaint is that reverse was a complete pain the ass, and after this many miles is only reasonable to get into quickly. I think the last time my wife drove it, she couldn't even get it into reverse. Granted, she doesn't drive it often but it shouldn't be that hard.

 

2 options that work here

1. Pull the shifter out of the gate then back into the gate

2. Slowly ease the clutch up a small amount while applying firm (not Cap't Insano) pressure into reverse and it'll fall in

 

My truck was insanely difficult to get in Reverse for about the first 5 or 6,000 miles and then finally eased up. Was a nightmare when I had people behind me and it taking 5 or 6 tries to go in.

 

Hehe, I thought the nightmare was me chirping you about it LOL

 

I sent the OP a description of how I drive and shift. Hopefully it might help someone else. Here is an excerpt:

For the this portion of this post, let's say I was at a full stop and am going to accelerate to 70 mph as quickly as possible and as smoothly as possible:

Depress clutch, shift into first.
Apply accelerator up to 12-1500 rpm
Let out clutch while smoothly applying gas.
When I get to 3000 rpm or so, shift into second and smoothly apply accelerator.
Repeat for each gear but I am going 70 in 4th by then.

Sounds like what you do right? Well, hopefully here's where I can help... maybe.

After shifting and after letting out the clutch, I never depress the accelerator more than two inches or so. Maybe half the travel is all! I also do it in a "ramp up" fashion, meaning, over a total time of a second or so, I shift, let out the clutch, slightly depress the pedal until the rpms catch up and feed it more gas. By the time I get to a few inches travel, I am at 3-3500 rpm and time to shift again. That whole process took less than a few seconds.

As a matter of fact, and I was paying attention, I never went past half throttle! So, I tried it like I would shift an older vehicle with pure linear acceleration. Basically, shift, let out the clutch and smoothly push the gas pedal to the floor, then shift again. Let me tell you, that process does not work with this truck. It bucked, the shifts were rough, there was a dead area directly after the shift, etc. It basically sucked.

So then I tried to remember when do I ever go past half throttle... the answer is when I am climbing a long steep hill. Say on the interstate. I will downshift to 5th and go towards half throttle and if I need more torque to maintain speed, I could go all the way to the floor at 3500 rpm or so. But as far as shifting, I never go past a few inches of travel on the accelerator and I ramp up those few inches.

I also tested it out tonight. I went from a dead stop to 70 mph shifting like I do and shifted at around 2500 rpm from first to second all the way to 5000 rpm from 3rd to 4th and the 2nd to 3rd shift rpm was around 3700 rpm. Very quick and smooth as butter.

I don't know if you have tried this way yet, but if not, I urge you to give it a go. Take it around the block. At low speeds or acceleration, just a bare amount of throttle and even when going balls out, never more than a few inches of gas pedal travel. It's almost like you need to give it a split second for the truck to catch up before continuing to apply the throttle.

Hope this helps and let me know!

 

you are a kind and patient human, good on ya.

 

I'm curious if the jerkiness you're all experiencing has anything to do with the fact that you're shifting in the 'valley' in our torque curves - there's a dip between 3-4kish (you can google the chart), and you'd drop to about 2k which is a local maximum in the curve.

I'm really trying to just come up with something to blame other than driver mod...

 

I'm just focusing on trying not to clunk when i shift. I think in normal driving I don't give it more than 1/4 throttle at any given time.

 

Last few drives it seems to be more smooth if I kinda over rev the thing.
We'll see.

Tried what was posted above, but my truck doesn't like any light or easy throttle.

 

Glad I found this thread. Thought I was the only person experiencing jerky shifts. I found there I need to rlelease the clutch a little more then it doesn’t jerk as much. Only got my baby for 500 miles. Love it. I bought the OVtune. Can’t wait to get that installed.

 

Even the manual is clunky? Feel better about my AT now.

 

Not in the least. It was notchy when brand new. It felt pretty damn close to the 2007 Taco with 141k that I test drove a couple times.

My Taco had 8mi on it when I bought it. By the end of the first tank, the syncros were 80% broken in. Now at 4k, it is slick and flicks into gear. I find myself sometimes using just two fingers when in traffic on the homeward commute. The only gear that is slow to engage is going from 2nd to 1st while moving because I rarely do that. I believe it was posted that the 2016 or 2017 GB went from double cone to triple cone scycros on 1st gear and double cones on the rest?

I do sometimes get a clunk going from 4th to 5th. That is purely me being lazy while shifting and a bit of what I would call over-eager blips that I get. The over-eager blips are something that seems to not be common considering what folks post in the OVT tread.