LED Lighting Conversion

@Parker315
What did you put in your high beams? *newb on tacomas* are the high beams different? Or can i just order two sets of the hikari leds (low beam and high beam)

 

You can put H11 bulbs in the low beams, high beams, and the fogs!!! If you read back through the past dozen pages of this thread, you'll see the @Parker315 swapped his LEDs around each of those locations as he tested and upgraded. lol

 

I saw his few posts but must have stopped too soon. Do you know if the 2018s headlight would be the same for the 2017s? Wondering if i could still use these

 

Completely misguided advice.

LEDs should not be run in a reflector (high beams and fogs). You will have significant scatter and reduced performance with shorter beam projection (throw). LEDs really shouldn't be run in a halogen projector either if you really care about performance, but the glare issues are cleaned up by the light shield so you are only suffering reduced projection.

What am I talking about? Read and understand why this is an awful practice:
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/why-leds-should-not-be-run-in-halogen-reflectors.454371/

 

@crashnburn80
Thanks for the info! Now i guess ill just leave my lights the way they are....

 

$20 to swap H9s into your H11 low beams will take output from ~1300 lumens to 2100 lumens. Inexpensive and a significant performance improvement. You will need to trim a plastic tab on the H9 bulb for the low beam fitment.

For fogs, nothing will touch this in terms of output maintaining cut off, but it has some DIY. One drawback is you won't notice if your headlights are working as the fogs are so much brighter than the headlights.
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/the-h10-to-9011-hir-foglight-upgrade-better-than-led.528143/

Also working on some real LED fog upgrades, I may have other tested solutions to recommend later, but none will match the 9011 HIRs mentioned above:
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/5d-dot-sae-led-pods.528726/page-2#post-17085960

 

Not true...it depends on the LED you put in the high beam. Some of the newer (and costlier) ones have pretty darn good projection that are comparable to HIDs (and are better than Halogen). Technology is moving fast in this category...

And glare is not an issue because you get it whether it's halogen, HIDs, or LEDs...that's the nature of the high beams. That's why you don't use them when their is oncoming traffic.

 

LEDs are directionally side firing. The most important part of the lens for distance illumination is the upper rear part of the reflector lens directly above the bulb. This area cannot be directly illuminated by an LED as the LEDs are A) not pointed in the right direction, B) there is a large rod holding the LEDs in the way creating a shadow in this location. This is plainly obvious in a halogen reflector with a dark spot in the most important part of the housing. Comparing to a halogen illuminated housing this is the brightest part of the housing. The optics are not compatible. This is plain geometry, there is no way around it with 'newer LEDs' the design is still massively flawed. Side lighting your reflector or internal projector just results in high near field illumination with significant reduced distance illumination.

Note I mentioned the glare issue is mitigated by the light shield in the projector.

HIDs do not suffer this flaw as they are an omni-directional light source just like halogen. They uniformly light the internal projector housing in all directions just like halogen.

And yes the technology is moving fast, and it is moving with dedicated LED designed housings. Not putting LEDs in halogen housings.

 

Hey Boss!! Sorry for the delay I'm justing seeing this. Work has been crazy this week. IT never stops lol

Bulbs for Fogs, Highs, and Lows are all H11. I've moved all my bulbs around to test in different areas to see what the best combo was. So far those new Phillips LED Hikari bulbs are the shitz!!

 

Ohhhh shit!!! He is back with the "miss guided advice" again! We all saw your last 3 posts on here and we've all see your article. Jesus man, I'm not trying to be an asshole, but damn. Look we get it your an HID and factory halogen lover... its totally cool, but LED has come a hell of a long way and almost all of us here are 3rd gen owners with projector low beams. Good LED bulbs in projector low beams are AMAZING. My Hikari Philips LED's in my low beam projector housing shines well over 50yards. We aren't running our high beams 24/7 and the fog lights work just as they should with LED bulbs. We all have the bulbs, we love the output, and I have tested 4 different top brands of LEDS to come up with the best on the market so far.

@rlx02 and I did a clear comparison on HID vs LED. So we can all clearly see the difference. For the price and the longevity of LED over HID. LED is going to win and LED technology is getting better every day.

 

Right, those new Hikari LEDs suck in our headlight housing, best you not buy them so they remain in stock for me to be able to run more tests on them. I should really get to the bottom of this.

HIDs are definitely the way to go. I think there are a bunch of threads on here with reviews, and likely some comparing them to LEDs saying how superior they are.

We should go over there and leave these losers to their false beliefs and faked evidence.

As a matter of fact, I really think those photos that one of the guys posted, showing how good they work, he used those halogen work lights on a tripod in the bed of his truck plugged into his house with an extension cord. I think I saw the wire.

 

@Parker315 I'm actually geting some LED bulbs sent to me for review, so I can do a back to back comparison of them to halogen and HID.

 

Sweet!! Which ones are being sent for a review?

 

From what you are saying, you are talking about things that does not really apply to the HBs (which is all I was talking about). The high beams are NOT projectors like the LBs and are therefore not as sensitive to gap (the "rod") that is between the LEDs. The HBs are reflector stytle headlights and simply scatter the diffused light in a more uniform manner than the LBs do. It does not focus/magnify the reflection like projectors do.

Additionally, the HBs do not have a light shield like the LB projectors do.

Finally, the gap between the LEDs are down to only a couple millimeters now...much smaller than they were a year ago. Beyond that, many of the companies are adding ridges around the LEDs so that the light is reflected in a manner that covers the gap before it reaches the headlight reflector. Like I said, much has changed...do your homework.

 

I think the S-4 series from auxbeam.com I'm not sure yet but I'll letcha know when it comes through.

 

Ahhhh man!! I can tell you right now there will be no comparison. It's a good thing you didn't buy those. If they are the red S4's you will be disappointed. That's maybe a $30 set. They might perform ok in the fog lights, but as for headlight... total crap. Wish you were getting the new Hikari bulbs.

Let me know if that's really what you end up getting. I haven't heard or read good things on those bulbs. I could be wrong though.

 

Is there one from the website you would like to see?

 

I would be curious to see how their new T1 series looks. The bulb design and LED seem to be a good combo.

 

These?

https://www.auxbeam.com/headlight-bulbs/H11/GD000045

 

Yuuup!