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Slider serve as step rail?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by JBone25, Feb 15, 2018.

  1. Feb 15, 2018 at 5:46 PM
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    JBone25

    JBone25 [OP] Well-Known Member

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    I get that sliders are primarily used to prevent damage while out crawling. I was curious if there is a current slider that sits a bit lower that can serve as a step as well? I like the look of the tucked look.
     
  2. Feb 15, 2018 at 5:49 PM
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    Even tucked up at an angle they make a good step. Mobtown offroad can make them flat with no angle if thats what you want
     
  3. Feb 15, 2018 at 5:51 PM
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    Cool, will look at what they have.
     
  4. Feb 15, 2018 at 6:33 PM
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    Several of the vendors will do that. I really liked the OEM steps on my Tundra, but on the Taco its just hard to get a good fit since they are much smaller. I wanted the protection and the utility for the fam. I went with AllPro and really like them. Harder for me to use as a step but perfect for wife and kid.

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    Those are @Mobtown Offroad sliders with fill plates at 0°. Decent step on my daily driver, wife and kiddos "enjoy" it... But, if i were to do it again, I would ask for 5°. Still decent step, but could have a better clearance. Good luck with your choice!
     
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    Does the degrees reference an increase of closeness to the body of the truck? 0 degrees is flat, at a 90 degree angle and 5% is up closer to the body ?
     
  9. Feb 15, 2018 at 7:12 PM
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    Bastek

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    I just looked over my post, and edited. I ment ° (degrees) not %.
    That being said, yes 0° is flat, as you said 90° (to the frame).
    5° would put an outer edge just a bit higher, theoretically helping to slide off stuff a bit easier then 0°.
     
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  10. Feb 15, 2018 at 7:49 PM
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    0° means flat or parrallel to the ground.

    5° is the angle up, above 0° which puts the top, tangent edge of the outer round DOM tubing 1/2".

    Increasing angles slants the slider more upward and every 5° gains you 1/2". Our sliders are max at 20°.

    This is an interesting argument we see often. Flat makes a wider surface to be used as a step BUT even at 20°, there is enough distance between the truck and the top edge of the hoop to stand on, door open or closed. Both 0° and 20° stick out fair enough to protect the doors from car doors, rocks, trees, etc.

    The next argument is when flat, you're more likely to high center. Yes/No. The main tube that runs front to back, under the pinch seam is flat at any degree. The angle of 20° is supposed to slide you down and off objects. This is assuming the object is under the outer round hoop and not that and/or the tube running parallel under the pinch seam.

    As for offered angles, we only offer 0° and 20° and will not build any other angle. The dimensional changes are so minor we just don't see the benefit.

    All sliders can be hi lifted from, if they can't then they're not a rock slider. Many companies claim to be full bolt on but be sure to check the fine print. Some will say that, then have a note claiming for full strength you have to drill the underside of the chassis.

    HREW Carbon Steel Round Tube < DOM Carbon Steel Round Tube < A500 Square Tube in regards to deflection.

    HREW < DOM in regards to dent resistance

    Slider legs with gussets from the plate that bolts to the chassis all the way out to the tube that runs front to back under the pinch seam will be stronger than gussets that are shorter. Gussets positioned on the top of the tube if round tube should be centered on the tube. If the legs are square, the gussets should be position to one side or the other, not the center of the square tube.

    An attachment plate that bends under the chassis will be stronger than just a flat plate of the same material and plate thickness.

    The last support leg going from the plate that attaches to the truck and then to the tube running front to back is as far back as it can be on all designs. That point to the back end of the tube running front to back is called a moment arm. Unsupported and it can and most likely will flex upward and possibly into the underside of the cab or bed. We and another vendor added a support tube to remove that deflection.

    With all this that I explained, we went with the strongest design in all areas. Many vendors do too so we went a couple steps further in how we attached them to the chassis which can be found in the link below.

    http://mobtownoffroad.com/2015/11/18/what-makes-moboff-bolt-on-sliders-the-best/

    Hope this clears up any questions.
     
  11. Feb 15, 2018 at 8:09 PM
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    Makes way more sense than what I tried to say...:thumbsup:

    Edit. Aaand makes me feel a bit better that I didn't even have a choice if that 5º, lol
     
  12. Feb 15, 2018 at 8:13 PM
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    I appreciate the help and representing us Sebastian!
     
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    Not a problem! I'm happy with my choice, and they serve mine and my family's needs exactly as intended!
     
  14. Feb 15, 2018 at 8:29 PM
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    I was thinking about the same thing. Wondering if I should go with the 0 or 10 degrees.
     
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    ^And THIS is why I ordered @Mobtown Offroad sliders. Talk about taking the time to answer a question. Shipping be damned, I passed up all the great CA armor companies to order mobtown sliders, and flat nonetheless! Their bolt on/clamping method is superior to others. When I called and asked about being able to use a hi lift on the sliders, they were the only ones to instantly say “oh yea, that’s easy”. After hearing other companies shy away from that same concern with their bolts on, I ordered away. Biggest regret was not doing it sooner, my truck is itching for an outing!
     
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    Thank you so much for this amazing explanation
     
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    These guys are great!

    I had a little difficulty with the installation (that inside clamp goes on TIGHT!), and they helped me over the phone so I could get it done right. :thumbsup:
     
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    @Mobtown Offroad what's your lead time right now? from order/pay to doorstep
     
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    I have the Mobtown Offroad Sliders at 0 degrees with fill plates. I've been plenty happy with them except, they are kind of high off the ground to make a good step. I have to duck down pretty good when climbing in...... BUT, I find that the predator steps sold on the trucks aren't really all that much better. I think the cab of the truck is part of the problem. With full sized trucks, getting in and out with steps is easier.

    The Mobtowns are hefty, well made, and plenty strong. Wife wanted steps, I didn't want to loose ground clearance...... they fit the bill. If I were to do it again, I'd probably just get the 20 degree with no fill plates..... and if I replace these, it will be with ones welded to the frame.

     

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