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Wheel and Tire "Will this fit/rub" stock, leveled, and lifted info inside (complete with poll)

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by eccracer104, Oct 12, 2017.

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Wheel and tire fitment:

  1. 1st gen: stock height & stock wheels 265/75-16 or 265/70-17 and no rubbing

    2.2%
  2. 1st gen: stock height & stock wheels 265/75-16 or 265/70-17 and I am rubbing

    1.4%
  3. 2nd gen: stock height & stock wheels 265/75-16 or 265/70-17 and no rubbing

    15.7%
  4. 2nd gen: stock height & stock wheels 265/75-16 or 265/70-17 and I am rubbing

    2.8%
  5. 3rd gen: stock height & stock wheels 265/75-16 or 265/70-17 and no rubbing

    26.7%
  6. 3rd gen: stock height & stock wheels 265/75-16 or 265/70-17 and I am rubbing

    3.7%
  7. 1st gen: 2-3" lift with aftermarket wheels 285/75-16 or 285/70-17 and no rubbing

    0.6%
  8. 1st gen: 2-3" lift with aftermarket wheels 285/75-16 or 285/70-17 and I am rubbing

    0.8%
  9. 1st gen: 2-3" lift with aftermarket wheels 285/75-16 or 285/70-17 and I rubbed but fixed it with CMC

    0.3%
  10. 2nd gen:2-3" lift with aftermarket wheels 285/75-16 or 285/70-17 and no rubbing

    5.9%
  11. 2nd gen: 2-3" lift with aftermarket wheels 285/75-16 or 285/70-17 and I am rubbing

    5.9%
  12. 2nd gen: 2-3" lift with aftermarket wheels 285/75-16 or 285/70-17 and I rubbed but fixed it with CMC

    6.5%
  13. 3rd gen: 2-3" lift with aftermarket wheels 285/75-16 or 285/70-17 and no rubbing

    7.9%
  14. 3rd gen: 2-3" lift with aftermarket wheels 285/75-16 or 285/70-17 and I am rubbing

    4.5%
  15. 3rd gen: 2-3" lift with aftermarket wheels 285/75-16 or 285/70-17 and I rubbed but fixed it with CMC

    5.6%
  16. 1st gen: Stock height with 255 (tall skinny) tires and I am rubbing

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  17. 1st gen: Stock height with 255 (tall skinny) tires and no rubbing

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  18. 2nd gen and 3rd gen: Stock height with 255/85-16 or 255/80-17 tires and I am rubbing

    0.6%
  19. 2nd gen and 3rd gen: Stock height with 255/85-16 or 255/80-17 tires and no rubbing

    1.7%
  20. Any gen: 35" tires because I like to cut stuff

    7.3%
  1. Feb 28, 2018 at 2:34 PM
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    Canadianguy91

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    If I went 265, could I go 70/18?
     
  2. Feb 28, 2018 at 2:44 PM
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    Most likely. It's a 32.6" tire and not overly wide. Can't imagine you running into much if any trouble with that size.
     
  3. Feb 28, 2018 at 3:06 PM
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    But no way o could do both?
     
  4. Feb 28, 2018 at 4:15 PM
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    You lost me. What do you mean both?
     
  5. Feb 28, 2018 at 4:41 PM
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    Aha ok this is what I've been looking for. Seems like you're pretty knowledgeable about wheels. So I'm looking at 17x8.5 unfortunately I've been looking at methods but their sizes are ridiculous and there's no way a 4.75 bs wheel wrapped in 315s is gonna clear my spindle gussets. Let alone the uca. So looking at scs they've got the same size but in a 4.30 bs is that even doable? I'm moving away from 16" wheels otherwise I'd be able to answer my own questions I'm assuming the 1" extra on the 17" wheel will mean the inside lip of the wheel won't contact the spindle gusset at it's wide point?
     
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  6. Feb 28, 2018 at 4:48 PM
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    Great question. I've been searching high and low for basically the same information myself haha. I do believe 4.3" BS will clear. I have a buddy running 4.3" BS Ray 10s and 315/75-16 tires, don't think he's using spacers either. You could opt for 4.75" or 4.5" BS wheels and run .75" spacers which is more than likely how I'll end up doing it because there's more wheel options.

    Everything I can find either doesn't go into detail on the backspacing used, or they're running 1.25" spacers, or the 3.5" BS F5 wheels :goingcrazy:

    I want to be as narrow as possible with juuuuust enough room to air down and clear the spindles/UCA.
     
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  7. Feb 28, 2018 at 5:03 PM
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    Ya spacers aren't an option for me I wheel to hard and wrecked my wheel studs last time and it get old retorquing spacers every time I look at the truck. I'm in the exact same boat no one goes into detail about their suspension setups or at least they don't when it comes to wheel fitment. Currently my 16x8 4.25 bs procomp series 97 steelies barely fit and i mean barely. Although I can air down sub 10 psi and not rub the gusset. And before anyone runs off and tries to buy these they changed the design mine are old and the new ones don't clear 2g taco calipers.

    I actually just saw the ray 10 in gold on a black truck and had a "she will be mine" moment
     
  8. Feb 28, 2018 at 5:34 PM
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    The traditional "bolt on" spacers may not work for you. I bet BORA could make a bolt through design, run longer ARP studs which are stronger than stock. Heavy duty studs and no need to re torque. Just a thought.

    Might also look at the Koenig Countersteer Type X. It's a 17x8 with 4.1" backspacing.
     
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  9. Feb 28, 2018 at 5:55 PM
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    Bora does have a set i have a friend that did this to make his wheels work with his long travel setup. It's an option but I'd still rather just have bolt on no dicking around I posed the question to vin from scs as well. We shall see. Also the type x to me looks like a not as good version of the f5 lol

    Thanks though
     
  10. Feb 28, 2018 at 7:31 PM
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    The 275 as well as 70 sidewall
     
  11. Feb 28, 2018 at 9:49 PM
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    If you're open to cutting, sure! That's 33.2" which would be pushing it without rubbing. I've never seen anyone use that size, but I also don't see a lot of people running 18" wheels. It's more of a gamble, but people can trim for 35" tires on 2-3" lift.

    You also need to take into account the wheel choice. The wider and the lower offset wheels will cause you to rub more than a narrower and higher offset wheel.
     
  12. Mar 1, 2018 at 4:36 AM
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    What do you think is more important than having a slightly wider tire in 275 and a 65 sidewall, or staying 265 and going up to a 70 sidewall?
     
  13. Mar 1, 2018 at 8:24 AM
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    The 275/65 may have a tougher appearance being wider, but the 265/70 will be .6" taller. It's a small difference between the two. You'd have .3" more ground clearance going with the 265.

    If I were in your shoes I'd go 265/70r18.
     
  14. Mar 1, 2018 at 2:59 PM
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    For the ground clearance?
     
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    That and less chance of rubbing with the narrower tire.
     
  16. Mar 1, 2018 at 3:09 PM
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    35’s on 3” lift with just a CMC and no trimming. No rubbing. Fender liner removed.
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    Fully stuffed up front. No rubbing.
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  17. Mar 1, 2018 at 4:12 PM
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    Oh okay thanks!
    I was thinking the bilsteins 5100 in the front and a aal in the rear. You recommend anything or anything else I may need?
     
  18. Mar 1, 2018 at 4:15 PM
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    You might need a lean spacer for the drivers side, but nope, can't think of anything else. If you run into any trouble getting aligned you'll want to invest in some UCAs.
     
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    First off. Thank you very much for the comprehensive post, you rock!
    Probably would have been better if I had found it before I bought tires on Friday.

    My question is... Did I get away with something or am I asking for trouble? I just got my 2013 TRD sport a couple weeks back (stock suspension after market wheels not sure on the offset but it's not much) and Discount Tire helped me talk myself into 275/70r17 BFG KO2's. I removed all the mud flaps and have no rubbing! So I'm good to go right?

    My guess is that I'm in for a world of hurt (or rub) once I get off road and start getting some flex.
    Any thoughts, opinions or suggestions would be great.
     
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    Welcome to the forum!

    You might. If you do have to trim it isn't tough, and not noticeable unless you get your head into the wheel well.

    If you pull into a driveway with some speed do you rub? That's a pretty easy way to get an idea. If you rub during that you'll for sure rub Off Road. If not, you may just get away without it!
     

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