Philly tasered 17year old

I'm sorry if 50 people dying unnecessarly is not proof enough for you. I think if one of those 50 people would have been someone you cared for, you would think differently. Sure breaking the law is bad, but at the same time there needs to be a reasonalbe effort to control the situation with the least force and unncessary risk of death as possible, especially if no threat to the officer is present.

If the boy at the Phillys game would have died from the taser, would you think the action of the police were justifed? Hell no! The arguement of him wearing clothes so you don't know what he might have had on him is really funny, becuase do cops now just taze someone that they are questioning just in-case they have something on them?.... that's just stupid. Was the kid dumb, yes. Has there ever been a police officer or security guard seriously injured or died from a fan running out on the field? Probably not.

 

Of the THOUSANDS of times tasers have been used, 50 people have died. If any of those deaths were caused by a single taser shot on a person who was CLEARLY obeying officers and doing what was told, then yes, that is unjustified.

In the case of the Philly fan, and in the cases noted in the story, this wasn't true. From the story, MOST of the deaths caused by the tasers was due to abuse of officers using the tasers. The Philly fan wasn't obeying the orders from officers, and came through without serious injury.

You're implying that I think that a) a single taser shot is enough to frequently kill a person, and b) the people being tased are getting that treatment for no just cause. I think neither of those things

 

50 is just from a single taze, there are hundreds of actual deaths from multiple tazings. Still, the question remains, if someone you cared for was killed by a taser for something like running out on a baseball field, would you feel different? I'm saying the risk of death supercedes the use of a taser in cases such as the Philly game. Another unanswered question, what if the kid would have died, would it be a justified action?

 

^^^ we'll just have to agree to disagree..

 

I've been through the training....got tazed. Pulling out the barbs hurt worse than the actual shock.

 

The guy got what he was asking for, especially considering the actions of Philly fans in the past.

 

I had just read the news article, and not watched the video. I just watched the video, and feel more that it was clearly unjustifed. There was a grounds keeper within almost arms length of the boy. Even the crowd is booing. Seems like a SG or PO was trigger happy and just wanted to try out his new toy. Here is an interesting read... http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/20100505_Editorial__Electrifying_experience.html

Now in some cases where there is a direct threat to a SG or PO that a taser can be used. But not this case. I think there is going to be a lawsuit soon for unnecessary force. He should have been warned before that he was about to be tazed if he didn't stop.

 

you expect the groundskeeper to stop the kid...lol

 

Um, isn't that who usually ends up tackling the person anyway. And, it's not like the 17 year old boy was a big guy. He was almost surrounded.

 

wrong.

So if someone is coming at you in the street with a knife or gun, and the cop uses a taser or gun to stop him, then thats okay?

Or would you say...."gahh, fat ass cop, you couldve just takled him".

doesnt matter WHAT his intentions were. He did NOT belong on the field.

The cop did his job. The end.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6upepCzcYr8&NR=1&feature=fvwp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibscinBPGC4

Being tackled seems to be working just fine.

 

BTW, he is not a cop, he is a security guard.

Edit: I stand corrected. I had read that he was a security guard.

 

no, why would he put himself in harms way..?? That's why they have cops or security.

 

I don't pity the boy. Sure, prosecute the kid. But the same result can be carried out with less means. The punishment must fit the crime, I don't think that running out on a filed warrents a taze, especially if he wasn't warned he was about to get it. I am against people abusing there power just because they can.

 

I stand corrected. I just read on a newsite that he was a SG.