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Heavy metal removal from paint

Discussion in 'Detailing' started by AdventureKid, Mar 11, 2018.

  1. Mar 11, 2018 at 10:35 AM
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    AdventureKid

    AdventureKid [OP] Let's Go Places

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    Currently in the process this morning of removing specs of Iron that attached themselves onto the clear coat.

    1. Going to be using a acid free, non-caustic, pH balanced cleaner first.

    2. Then I will clay bar with lubricant to remove any extra crap that the cleaner didn’t get.

    3. The last step I’ll be using a wet surface polymer sealer.

    Ill update as I go through the process.

    This first photo shows the heavy metals in a section on the rear of the truck. These specs are over the whole truck.
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  2. Mar 11, 2018 at 10:43 AM
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    AdventureKid [OP] Let's Go Places

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    Industrial fallout, brake dust, Chem trails lol.

    Honestly it would have been prevented to a certain degree if I had a quality sealer, which I’m putting on today.
     
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    I used some jescar powerlock on my truck over a year ago after a claybar. Although it doesn’t bead water like it used to, the paint is still super smooth so I know it’s still working to some degree. You will be happy after applying your sealant. I plan to strip the old sealer off and use some ammo nyc products to seal the truck this time around and see how that goes.
     
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  4. Mar 11, 2018 at 10:56 AM
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    AdventureKid

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    I’ll show you what this acid free product does when it comes into contact with iron. It turns purple. I’ll post pics of it soon.... stay tuned
     
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  5. Mar 11, 2018 at 11:18 AM
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    So from a distance, you can’t see what’s happening as I applied the product.

    The macro photos tell a whole other story. The purple you see if the heavy metals being broken down by the cleaner.

    Let that sit for a minute or so, then spray down with water to neutralize it, and wash it away.

    Remember to always where PPE. I don’t know the MSDS on the specific product, but it doesn’t rank high on the pyramid.

    I’m using a 3M protective respirator.

    I don’t want to end up with a lung disease, like some close people I know who are on oxygen tanks. It’s no joke.

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  7. Mar 11, 2018 at 11:55 AM
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    That’s the cleaner breaking down those rust spots(heavy metals). It turns purple as it’s breaking down.

    Well, I’d like to associate it with chem trails but that’s a whole other topic not fit for here.
     
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    To each their own.

    Plenty of info out there, but ya, I live in Southern CA, and it’s a common occurrence. No denying it.
     
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  9. Mar 11, 2018 at 12:05 PM
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    Haha. Well like I said, this topic ain’t fit for here, but Ill say it.... i believe that last hurricane that wrecked Huston was weather modification in place.

    There’s tons of official gov. Documents regarding geoengineering from the 1950s. No secret
     
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    ....but you need to wear a respirator and PPE? Something isn't adding up. What product are you using? Pics needed.
     
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    "Heavy metals"? You mean, iron particles? Technically correct but very different connotation. Are you sure you know what the hell you're talking about? Heavy metal cannot be "broken down". Furthermore what reason do you even have to believe that your truck is covered with "heavy metals" that need to be removed? Why are you being so cryptic? You could just say you're using iron remover that's readily available online with other detailing products. That stuff is made to remove brake dust from your wheels. And it makes a huge purple mess when you use it on something that actually has iron on it, which your truck doesn't from the look of the photos.

    Also chem trails??? Weather modification???? You must be joking
     
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    ^^^ Absolutely correct. You just beat me to the punch.

    And as for the "iron particles" that you found on your truck, everybody has them to one degree or another. In fact many new vehicles come with them imbedded in the paint and dealers commonly call the issue "rail dust." It comes from the steel wheels on the train cars and the steel train tracks they run on wearing and kicking particles up. You can apply wax, sealants or even coatings on your paint after you've removed them, but they will eventually find their way back into your paint. That's why we detail all the time.
     
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    Thanks for the correction! Yes iron is what I was removing and showing what happens as the cleaner is applied, how it breaks it down and activated by becoming purple. Appreciate it guys.
     
  14. Mar 12, 2018 at 4:40 PM
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    Final ITT: It's all probably a joke and brake dust is harsh
     
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  15. Mar 13, 2018 at 11:58 AM
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    I assume you used IronX? That's what I use after I track my VW R32. When I first used it after a track section I couldn't believe how far iron particles were thrown from the brake pads onto the body of the car. Stuff stinks when used but it does a great job.
     
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    I have no idea what happened to this thread.

    Metallic particles imbedding in the paint happens on all cars.


    My understanding is a simple clay bar removes it and there is no need to use a deironizer (they are expensive to dump on the whole truck). I only use it on my wheels every couple washes because I don’t clay my wheels.

    The deironizer though does show you how plentiful paint contamination is and why it is important to clay bar your vehicle.
     
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  17. Mar 27, 2018 at 11:26 AM
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    Regarding Iron Particles and using a clay bar to remove them. Clay will not completely remove all iron particles.

    When I do a new vehicle prep, I perform the following steps.

    1) Wash
    2) Iron X
    3) Clay
    4) Rinse
    5) Paint Correct if needed
    6) Polish
    7) Coat or apply sealant
     
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