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Students Sent Home Over American Flag Shirts

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  1. May 6, 2010 at 4:30 PM
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    For some it was Drinko de Mayo
     
  2. May 6, 2010 at 4:35 PM
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    this type of thing happens every year.
     
  3. May 7, 2010 at 3:39 AM
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    More like hypocritically ftarded than funny. I bet the "school official" that started this mess swears he doesn't swallow wads or condone aggressive buttfucking either.
     
  4. May 7, 2010 at 3:56 AM
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    the school board didn't back the schools decision....
     
  5. May 7, 2010 at 8:04 AM
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    It's an accurate generalization, thank you. :D That region (districts 5 through 17ish) shares the same political/social philosophy.
     
  6. May 7, 2010 at 10:24 AM
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    Tensions High at California High School Following Flag Flap

    By Joshua Rhett Miller
    - FOXNews.com



    Tensions are rising at a California high school where five students were sent home for wearing American flag T-shirts on Cinco de Mayo.
    More than 200 Hispanic students reportedly skipped class on Thursday and marched to school district headquarters while chanting "we want respect" and "si se puedes" -- "yes we can" -- the Morgan Hill Times reported.
    "We did this to support the Latino/Hispanic community," Francine Roa, a 2005 Live Oak High School graduate, told the newspaper.
    At least six Morgan Hill police vehicles traveled alongside the students, many of whom carried Mexican flags. No arrests were made related to the march, the newspaper reported.
    Police have been told to be on alert for gang-related retaliation against the boys, according to Ken Jones, whose stepson, Daniel Galli, was one of the students who refused to turn their T-shirts inside-out when asked by a vice principal on Wednesday.


    "We just want this whole thing to die down," Jones told FoxNews.com. "We're not trying to keep these flames firing."
    The five teens -- Galli, Austin Carvalho, Matt Dariano, Dominic Maciel and Clayton Howard -- were sitting at a table outside Live Oak High School Wednesday morning when Assistant Principal Miguel Rodriguez asked two of them to remove their American flag bandannas, one of the boys' parents told FoxNews.com. The youths complied, but were asked to accompany Rodriguez to the principal's office.
    The students were then told they must turn their T-shirts inside-out or be sent home, though it would not be considered a suspension. Rodriguez told the students he did not want any fights to break out between Mexican-American students celebrating their heritage and those wearing American flags, the parent said.
    But Jones said the preemptive action was unnecessary, and that Rodriguez "overstepped his bounds."
    "The issue was, there was nothing going on," Jones told Fox News on Friday. "There was no sense of violence at all amongst the students, there was no conversation, there was no bullying.
    "We just feel like the vice principal overstepped his bounds. He jumped in too quickly. We can understand he might be concerned something would happen, but there was no indication that was going to happen at all."
    Officials at the high school, a 1,300-student institution in Santa Clara County, near San Jose, have not returned several messages seeking comment.
    As of late Thursday, Jones said the five boys' parents have no plans to sue the school or Morgan Hill Unified School District, which has characterized the incident as "extremely unfortunate" and is conducting an ongoing investigation. Several attorneys have contacted the families offering to represent them pro bono, Jones said.
    "We're keeping an open mind," he said. "We want to stand up for our First Amendment rights."
    He said the families are seeking an apology from school officials and want the students' unexcused absences for leaving school to be expunged.
    Galli said he frequently wears the American flag T-shirt to school and that he wasn't trying to incite any tension. Asked if he wore the shirt to make a statement related to the ongoing immigration debate, Galli said, "No, it had absolutely nothing to do with that."
    District officials, meanwhile, sent a voicemail message in English and Spanish to all parents late Thursday.
    "The Morgan Hill Unified School District does not prohibit nor do we discourage wearing patriotic clothing," the message from Superintendent Wesley Smith said. "The incident on May 5 at Live Oak High School is extremely unfortunate. While campus safety is our primary concern and administrators made decisions yesterday in an attempt to ensure campus safety, students should not, and will not, be disciplined for wearing patriotic clothing. This situation and our response are under review."
    Asked if the district will be taking any steps to quell rising tensions at the school, a district official told FoxNews.com in an e-mail, "Our focus for [Thursday] was student safety. Students are safe and administrators are continuing to work through the investigation."
    Eugene Volokh, a professor of law at UCLA, said the students are protected under California Education Code 48950, which prohibits schools from enforcing a rule subjecting a high school student to disciplinary sanctions solely on the basis of conduct that, when engaged outside of campus, is protected by the First Amendment.
    If the school could point to previous incidents sparked by students who wore garments with American flags, they could argue that the flag is likely to lead to "substantial disruption," Volokh said.
    "If, for example, there had been fights over similar things at past events, if there had been specific threats made. But if [school officials] just say, 'Well, we think it might be offensive to people,' that's generally speaking not enough."
    Volokh said the students and their parents likely have a winning case on their hands if they decide to take the matter to court.
    "Oh yes, it's almost open and shut," he said.
     
  7. May 7, 2010 at 11:11 AM
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    Yeah, sure, read it saw it....not the point. Shouldna got to that to begin with is the stupid ftard bullshit.
     
  8. May 7, 2010 at 11:18 AM
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    i think he should be arrested for racial profiling....against americans
     
  9. May 7, 2010 at 11:18 AM
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    I seem to remember Larry Flynt wearing a US flag as a diaper in his court appearances.
     
  10. May 7, 2010 at 11:21 AM
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    Now, that same mother fucker wouldn't be concerned about or sending anyone home during July 4th week for wearing anything other than American patriotic attire if school was in session would he? Fuck no, wouldn't cross his ass buried intestine watchin mind would it? This is what incites shit here in our own country - we have to make concessions in our own country to not offend or make people loyal to other countries here legally or not uncomfortable by displaying pride for our country but we are made to feel that way by what Ftards are expecting from us without any concern. Best start getting concerned about it and act accordingly is where that has been pushed to. Stupid needs to GTFO!
     
  11. May 7, 2010 at 11:22 AM
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    That attitude is what's wrong with this country.

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  12. May 7, 2010 at 11:29 AM
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    Interesting. unless you are an american indian you've been here for a handful of generations, and now some other people are coming here in search of a better life- yet when they get here, they find people who have forgotten they were themselves immigrants to America. We are a big country, but not big enough for racism. Go back to wherever you came from if you dont like it here, unless you are an American Indian- and in that case only an apology is necessary and we are all intruding.
     
  13. May 7, 2010 at 11:31 AM
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    Who are you directing this towards?
     
  14. May 7, 2010 at 11:36 AM
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    ya but there LEGAL immigrants.....
     
  15. May 7, 2010 at 11:36 AM
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  16. May 7, 2010 at 6:11 PM
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    You lost me here. They are in THIS country. Not MEXICO! If this were MEXICO and on 5 May I wore an American flag T-shirt I would expect to get my ass kicked. It is their country. But to be in the US and have them want to be treated like they are still in MEXICO???????? No fucking way. If they want to be here then fine, I have no problems with that at all. Just do these simple things for me

    1: PAY FUCKING TAXES!!!!!!!!!! this is a big one. I work my ass off just to watch my money go to Government. ( And oddly enough as military I am paid with taxpayer money, how the fuck does this work????) and see my hard earned, easily taken money. And no, sales tax does not fucking count.

    2: BECOME A CITIZEN!!!!!!! Because there is no better way to tell the Indian guy who works at the 7/11( who has become a legal citizen after a long, drawn out process) to "Go fuck yourself, because I just hopped over a fence and came in the back door to get into the US".

    3: SPEAK ENGLISH!!!!! I don't go to mexico and expect them to speak my language. Nor would I go to Germany, Italy, China, or Korea and expect that. So don't expect me to cater to you.

    These are all I ask here. Don't get the USA confused with your country. This goes for more than Mexicans too. I don't care where you came from, you can still celebrate your holidays, but do NOT expect everyone to drop our country for yours EVER! The USA is MY country and I still manage to celebrate holidays of cultural importance without having to force people to conform to my culture. If I want to wear an American Flag on ANY day of the year, then you had better damn well believe I will.
     
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    nice post
     
  18. May 8, 2010 at 3:26 PM
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    Thank you. :D
     
  19. May 9, 2010 at 10:36 AM
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    Im not one to get involved in political stuff but this kind of stuff pisses me off. This is America. I consider it to be the greatest country in the world. We welcome all who come to this country legally with open arms. The people who come here legally came here because they could do more with their lives and be somebody. "The American Dream". That is what the flag stands for in my opinion. If a person wants to support this country then by golly, support it. wear American flag clothes. Fly a flag in your yard. If that offends somebody then they need to go back to where they came from because obviously they think that their old country is better than America. Nobody should ever be punished for supporting this country.
     
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    That's really what gets me about the instant citizenship too. I work with several engineers who immigrated here from various other countries (Philippines, India, Indonesia). They have all become citizens through the normal, drawn out process, taking about 10 years. These are guys/girls with minimum 4 year degrees and skilled jobs. Yet, someone picking up sh!t says "give me citizenship because I deserve it".

    Doesn't really seem fair to those that did the right thing anyway.
     

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