OV Tune vs ECT PWR

You might see a decrease of 1 mpg (if that) using ECT on. On rare circustances it can actually help. It all depends on the situation.

 

Only use ECT when towing...duh

 

ok guys. I am thinking of trading in my 16 Diesel Colorado tomorrow for a 18 pro in Calvary because I love the look of it and that color. I test drove it with wife and although it is bouncier ride on road I sure love the look and interior. Ill be putting about 25k miles a year on new truck and I don't want full size again. if needed I do not know how this works on tune at all but have no problem if needed spending 800 to get one. would you all buy the Tacoma again now that you have had one? Just a little nervous for one dealer had an 18 cement off road with prem and tech and owner added like another 4k in options after he got it like grill and other things but a lot and 5k miles later he traded it in. Had to take a huge hit. They was taking 41k for it. Original msrp was 42k before all the cosmetic adds of 4k owner did. He didn't like something for sure

 

Duh!

Not feeling the diesel?

Calvary Blue is actually my favorite color now. Cement second and Inferno / Quicksand third. Unfortunately for me, Cement was not offered for the TRD OR back in ‘17.

Good luck with the purchase!

 

well I did it. bought it today. Ill pick it up Tuesday.. I really liked the way it drove. Had 2 miles on it and after test drive it now has 32 and they didn't even have really ready they just got it. So cant wait to get it!!

 

They have been working on the tune for one year now and have yet to perfect it. I sell my cars every two years or so. Shift Sense made all the difference for me and only $150! No concerns about my warranty being denied either by a tune install.

 

I'm not familiar with shift sense. Can you explain what it is and what it does. Also, any relevant links would be appreciated.

 

I've recently installed the ShiftSense Pro also. Very impressed with it. Once you install it you move the shifter to S mode and the product takes over shifting for you. According to the manufacturer the device reduces overall shift count by 60%-75% on average. Makes for a much smoother ride as the truck isn't constantly hunting for gears. It also comes in 3 modes depending on your preferences. Below is a link to a large thread that will tell you all about it.

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...sion-shift-controller-for-gen3-tacoma.490113/

 

fixed

 

Actually incorrect. Vehicles come from the factor very leaned out for MPG and emissions, the ignition timing is retarded to prevent detonation and keep the cat hot.

 

One thing that’s not possible during those test drives, is to understand how the truck is going to drive after 500+ miles. The tranny learns, and the general consensus is that it gets worse with time.

So yes, caveat emptor, but it’s still a fundamental truth that the way this truck ‘drives’ is a fair departure from what trucks historically drive like. The full extent of that cannot be appreciated during a test drive of even 20 miles. You have to run a few tanks of gas before the transmission settles into final mode.

 

From what i've read, most people say it gets a lot better once you get up into 10k+ miles, not worse.

 

Hate to contradict you, but it is general knowledge that as vehicles break in and “learn” they get better / perform better. Many people have conceded that this truck only gets better with miles.

Mine has been nothing short of great. Along with many others.

The thing is, there will always be complainers out there. They seem to “scream” the loudest. They in turn convince other gullible people into thinking that something is wrong.

Complainers gonna complain!

 

We have learned from Mat (OVtune) that the factory calibration actually "dumps rich" when you go WOT. He posted about it in one of the OV threads.
While I understand that WOT has nothing to do with being efficient, one of the things changed in the later versions of the tune was to clean up this condition (leaner).

Just a FYI.

 

Sigh.. not again man.

You understand that you're actually screaming too right?

I don't doubt anyone that is happy with their Tacoma. I also don't say negative things about them, and believe me there's been plenty of that shit on TW too. "Drink the Toyota koolaid", Fanbois, Taco white knights comes to mind.

So what is it? Do you believe that all owners' experience should be the same as yours? Anybody who complains is dumb for buying the truck in the first place, because everything should have been 100% clear after a test drive or two?

...or do you just like to fight about it?

C'mon man, everyone is different.

 

Lol... oh boy!

“Wear it, if it fits!”

I have already explained this. If we were seeing failures, that would be one thing. Instead, we continually see OPINIONS on how Toyota failed / screwed up, when they didn’t.

Dont like the truck and its mannerisms?

SHOULD HAVE PAID ATTENTION AND DONE YOUR DUE DILLIGENCE BEFORE THE PURCHASE.

Unless the truck is actually failing you mechanically, everything else is BS.

No one is fighting, we are all just having a discussion. Figured if the complainers are gonna be spreading miss information all over the forum, I also reserve the right to express my opinion about the truck I own and my experiences with it.

 

Does OVtune help cruise control at 75-80mph? I live in KS, but my truck struggles going through the flint hills or if there’s a 20-30mph head/cross wind. I do have a 2” lift, bigger tires 285/70 and a ARE topper. I set the cruise at 77 and if the truck isn’t hunting for gears it gets stuck in 4th or 5th. Before my regear it would get stuck at 3500rpms and it would only shift if I were to go down hill. After the 4.88s it gets stuck at 2900rpms. If it does shift to 6th it doesn’t hold for long. Id like better highway drivability and it would be nice to get better than 11-13 mpg on the hwy. If I could get 17-18 mpg and it not shift erratically fighting winds or hills I would love the truck.

And Yea I could drive without cruise control and feather the pedal but I take multiple 4-8 hour trips a year. Just curious if OVtune will take care of this issue. If not I may look into a Tundra in the future.

 

It's common knowledge that most auto manufacturers set the vehicles about 70% of what there capable of. The reason they do this is for longevity of the powertrain and keeping everything in safe working limits. When you tune a vehicle your tapping into the other 30% available but your all so pushing things to there maximum and decreasing the longevity of the powertrain.

 

They are. I've been happy with my overall vehicle, despite the oddities in the drive train. I'm happier with my vehicle because of the OVTune. If I were considering just the drivetrain, I would be disappointed in the truck because of the stock drivetrain and happy with it despite the additional $750 cost of the tune.

I think we may be talking two different things here. Performance being raw power and efficiency, and perform being behavior. I totally agree that as an engine breaks in, it loosens up and revs more freely. MPG tends to go up a little, and overall efficiency going up may lead to a little more HP. What I'm referring to is behavior. There's post after post of people complaining about how the transmission 'learns its crappy ways over and over', despite resetting by battery disconnect or flashing with earlier tunes.

Yes, some will be convinced that the behavior is unacceptable. No, some won't be convinced it's unacceptable. The thing is, it's relevant for each person. If they don't like it, that's their issue.... no matter how they came to that conclusion. I found the $750 well worth the money. Others may not.

Short of statistical analysis, we're simply quoting anecdotal stories on better or worse over time. I'm happy to concede that others are perfectly happy with the vehicle and wouldn't change a darn thing. If a tune were unavailable, I wouldn't change my long term plans with the vehicle. It was available, so I bought it. But my long term plans didn't change. That should tell you the relative merit of the tune for me and my impression of the worthiness of the vehicle.

 

If you want to dig in a bit, OK:

1. Toyota has issued some safety recalls on the 3rd gen, so they must have seen enough failures to make their lawyers' arses pucker. Here are two: Rear axle leaks which could lead to lockup; excessive anti corrosion coating on the crank timing rotor that ultimately could cause the engine to quit (CKP was re-designed, and later rotor assemblies didn't have the coating issue). Those are failures, not just opinions. How many there actually were.. well only Toyota knows that.

2. Toyota has issued a number of TSBs to correct "issues" on the 3rd gen. Now this first one is of particular note - Shift feel enhancements. So why would they do that? Could it be that there were numerous complaints lodged with dealers/corporate about auto tranny weirdness? To say that everyone who did that was retarded for buying the truck in the first place, or just didn't pay attention is not realistic.
How about the rear axle whine, which turned out to be unrelated to the leaks but was by all accounts a NVH issue (gear noise/harmonics being transferred through the rear springs). Why did Toyota bother to deal with that?
BTW, that issue didn't show up on my truck right away, and others report the same thing.


Look, I certainly don't want to become "Smitty2".. but this truck isn't perfect and there are facts to back that up. Again, if you're happy and don't have issues that's awesome. But one has to think though, if nobody complained to Toyota, perhaps there wouldn't be any TSBs. I'm thinking Toyota eventually fixes some things due to feedback and maybe that's one reason why your truck treats you well.

Maybe a "thank you" is in order to those that took the time to do something and voice their concerns to Toyota. I guarantee just whining about it on here does nothing, on that we can agree.

Yep, you can certainly express your opinion- - as I just did. Lol, within the TW CoC of course.

We officially agree to disagree.