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"Wheeler's Anonymous"

Discussion in 'Southern California' started by SlipperyTaco, Apr 5, 2016.

  1. Apr 12, 2018 at 10:38 PM
    Prayn4surf

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    Yeah, I only use it both or the rear on the most difficult section, then once through, disengage. Especially with a front locker, as turning with the front locked will snap your cv's
     
  2. Apr 12, 2018 at 10:39 PM
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    There’s a reason all the ultra 4 cars use ARB air lockers and not elockers.... don’t know what that reason is but anywho.... carry on with the debate.
     
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  3. Apr 12, 2018 at 10:42 PM
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    I think it is because ARB air lockers are super rugged and engage immediately. If you watch the video of the harrop you can see that if the lockers engage they won't lock until they hit the dip. If you are at KOH you can't have something like that. You need immediate response, and those people rebuild gears all the time. Plus ARB makes a reliable product for a reasonable price.
     
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  4. Apr 12, 2018 at 10:44 PM
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    Seems like that’s the reason to go arb over elocker.

    Why would an ARB cause you to loose a ring and pinion gear? Please explain. Locked is still locked.

    Edit: should say, why would an ARB cause a ring and pinion to fail over a elocker?
     
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  5. Apr 12, 2018 at 10:47 PM
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    Snapping CVs is no fun. Especially in the snow.
     
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  6. Apr 12, 2018 at 10:49 PM
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    I have not experienced it, as I don't have an ARB, but from my research, if locked with an arb, on occasion in a point of failure within the system, it can stay locked and not disengage, as it needs air to engage, and disengage. If your air or electrical on your compressor fails, it could stay locked, and with a front diff, can cause lots of problems. It is rare, but IMO murphy is alive and well, and if I was to put a locker in the front which I did, the e locker will never have that problem. Even if your switch won't shut it off, you can disconnect from the battery and the front diff will disengage possibly saving your cv's and getting you off the trail. I could be wrong as it has been quite some time since I read all that shit
     
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  7. Apr 12, 2018 at 10:51 PM
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    That sounds no bueno ahah
     
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  8. Apr 12, 2018 at 10:53 PM
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    Or just pull the air line from the diff and it disengages. Both elocker and ARB could both experience a mechanical failure. Welcome to the joys of wheeling. If it does stay locked, then just pull a cv shaft and leave the cup in the diff and that will get you off the trail. ARB still seems to me the best in the business in my opinion.
     
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  9. Apr 12, 2018 at 10:54 PM
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    On the plus side I learned how to do the swap and it was surprisingly simple. On the not so plus side, I simultaneously realized how badly I got ripped off when my previous one broke and I had a shop do the repair. Live and learn
     
  10. Apr 12, 2018 at 10:57 PM
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    Exactly, there is both an opportunity to fail and cause damage in both systems. I don't fault anyone going the way of ARB, they wouldn't be around if they didn't make good product. I looked at it more as points of failures to engage. I don't have to worry about an air leak, only an electrical failure. Having both on an arb is a possibility if the compressor fails due to electrical or what not, I just have to worry about my wire being disconnected in order to use it, not so much not use it.
     
  11. Apr 12, 2018 at 10:59 PM
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    Shitty man, but yeah, we all spend more money than we need to at least once, or multiple times in my case:anonymous:
     
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  12. Apr 12, 2018 at 11:00 PM
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    True. All good point. Good debate. Both good options. And electromagnetic engagement is pretty cool. What about metal shavings in the diff fluid building up on the magnet though? Just thought of that.
     
  13. Apr 12, 2018 at 11:01 PM
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    Since I just drained it, not any more than normal.
     
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    I’m talking about to magnet in the locker, not the drain plug
     
  15. Apr 12, 2018 at 11:03 PM
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    Hmm, never thought of that, but since the magnet will not be magnetic without an electrical current, I would imagine it won't work as the drain plug wood when draining, but most likely will attract metal particles when engaged. That is without a doubt

    Edit it wouldn't continue to attract metal once disengaged and the fluid should remove it from the magnet
     
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    In short .. can't go wrong with either one and I am still waffling between the two.
     
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    Still more flex than stock replacement Kings.....hahaha they suck
     
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    Do you have an additional grand to spend? That will be the quick deciding factor
     
  19. Apr 12, 2018 at 11:07 PM
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    In reality or in wifes reality?
     
  20. Apr 12, 2018 at 11:09 PM
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    These are things you don't mention to the wife until you use it and say, see if we didn't use that we woulda been stuck
     
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