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Bungie's Destiny

Discussion in 'Video Games' started by PcBuilder14, Feb 14, 2013.

  1. Mar 6, 2018 at 2:46 PM
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    I really like it. 600rpm auto that has some good range on it. I wouldn't trade it out for the Antiope D but it's still a good stable auto rifle. And the end is a good scout also.
     
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    So... Until May 8th I suppose there really isn't much to do in Destiny 2 right now. I've completed everything that I've wanted to do in game. As I've been extremely harsh (and for good reason) over the state of the game I must admit that The Curse of Osiris has given me just enough reason to play almost everyday. But... that may slow down for the next month or so with the exception of the NF specific rewards.

    I've been lucky and have been able to complete everything in game that I wanted and I'm looking forward to the expansion. I "believe" that Bungie is trying to listen to it's fanbase and basically reverting back to the way D1 was. Why they thought it was a good idea to go the route they went with D2 is beyond me but at least they are listening.

    So since the Curse of Osiris came out I was able to complete everything the game had to offer.

    Went Flawless in Trials 8 times which was enough for all the weapons, armor, and ornaments.

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    The Trials Armor is the best looking armor in the game especially with the ornaments applied.

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    So far we've completed 56 Prestige Night Falls

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    Best score for us so far during the NF tonight. 90,160

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    I've been extremely lucky with the NF specific rewards also.

    Got the sniper during the first week and it's a fucking beast in PvP with Snapshot. Finally... Snipers are back!

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    Got lucky last week and got the Ghost out of the NF twice

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    And got the Hand Cannon on our third run through the NF tonight

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    And if there was any question as to what class I play the most this should answer it.

    95,638 kills (so far) as a Nightstalker

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    Bungie is talking about bringing back random rolls, putting snipers back in the secondary slot, and basically turning it back into D1 during its heyday which would be fine with me. Here's to hoping. If the new expansion gives me as much play as the last I'll be okay with the game. It's not what I wanted D2 to be but it's at least better than it was when it launched.
     
  3. Apr 11, 2018 at 1:13 PM
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    I dont want to see snipers in secondary, it means that we will have 1 shot weapons and kill primary all over again.

    Rinse. Repeat. Special ammo nerf
     
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    Snipers in the secondary slot certainly doesn't bother me. In fact I'm a huge proponent of them being there. The thing with snipers is it takes skill to use them effectively to get that one shot kill. Not many people just go out and run with a sniper and are inherently good with them right off the bat. It takes practice to be effective with them so putting them back into the secondary slot is just fine with me. The way it is now, (albeit a little bit better with more heavy ammo drops) they have pretty much made snipers irrelevant when you can use a RL or The Colony which takes little to no skill to use at all IMO.

    So it's a trade off. If you are good with a sniper that most likely means you have practiced and become proficient to the point that you can go into engagements 1v1 or 1v2 sometimes. I had honed my skill to match whatever sniper I was using at the time. Almost every sniper I use has snapshot on it so I can get my sights up as fast as possible. But it also requires map knowledge and knowing when someone is going to press you. Sniper flinch in D2 is as bad as it's ever been but that will be addressed in the May update. So as it stands now... 90% use a RL, The Colony, and every so often a shotgun or fusion rifle.

    I honestly don't know what they have planned with moving weapons around in the slots (or even giving us more slots as rumored). I just hope they put weapons that take actual skill to use back into a slot that is more viable. I never minded being out-sniped by someone. It just meant they either got the drop on me before I got the drop on them or they were just a better sniper than I was.

    *EDIT* I was never any good with NLB in D1. I just never could get the hang of it. I admired those that could use that gun effectively. I just wasn't one of them. And NLB took major skill (and balls) to use in a Trials match IMO.
     
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    One of the issues I see, and GernaderJake made a good point about, is there are no really clutch plays to be had in D2 with all the team shooting. There are no montage videos to be made and no one is tuning into many Twitch Streams on D2 because nothing really exciting happens. Hell... even he is making Fortnite videos now instead of D2 videos since not many are interested. In D1 you could pull off some amazing plays that were almost one of those "did that shit just happen???? lol". Those plays are few and far between now which is why most of the streamers have moved on to other games. I hope that trend reverses itself in the future.
     
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    NaderJack got his ass handed to him when he came back. He is not a destiny player anymore and honestly he wasnt that good. There are some much better players on xb1 at least. PC is a different animal.

    True Vanguard has been making plays all along, its just more frequent now since the update.

    NLB had a disgusting hit box and was the king of all snipers before they killed special ammo.

    Primary should be #1 weapon, always.
     
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    I can't say that I agree with that. IIRC you were the one that turned me on to GernaderJake and how good he was?

    If primary should be the #1 weapon always then why have grenades, supers, secondaries, power weapons, etc... That sounds boring to me. Just my opinion though.

    You're right about PC being a different animal. FPS will always perform better on PC due to the ability to control recoil.
     
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    When I 1st found destiny I watched his stream and 1v3s. But he went sour quickly and once d2 hit he got even worse. I learned after 1 month sub in D1 that he wasn't that good, so i left and found No L.

    The d2 xb1 guys are Clarky, Ron and Papa Koolaid. Clarky being my favorite cause he is so chill. Nader Jacks boy defizzle has talent as well. Been flawless 5 times between Clarky and Ron. Im a mod for both now. Its amazing how many people still quit matches when they see these guys.
     
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    Im just saying when you put shotguns and snipers into a situation with default ammo, you inevitably cause them to take over cause they are so strong.

    Im a halo guy to the core. Halo required true skill. I cant say i loved default spawn times for sniper or shotty, but at least you know there were few of them for short times.
     
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    I agree man the mechanics of halo really tested the diverse skills needed to take out someone and the maps a lot of the time would help instigate certain styles more than others.

    That said, damn guys I thought D2 has long since died and been laid to rest? Glad to see some folks are still finding enjoyment with it. I wonder if they will do D2 in true D1 financial fashion where they continue with shit content until they fulfill the season pass folks and then make a real content dlc when EVERYONE is forced to either pay for it or leave the game? Good ol bungie has been saying the “were listening through out th creation of D1 well into D2.

    Anyway, they have any talk about D3 yet?
     
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    Whoa... Why would you mention build and wheeling on a destiny forum ?

    :anonymous::rofl:
     
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    There is still some hope for D2. D1 didn't really come into its own until TTK came out. Prison of Elders was a paid expansion and it sucked balls IMO. I hated it since it was essentially nothing but a glorified horde mode.

    My stance is (and has always been since D2 came out) they had the perfect foundation to work off of for D2. All they had to do was just add to what was already in place from D1. Instead they went the complete opposite direction and took almost everything that was good about Destiny and trashed it. No more random rolls, took about 30 mins to regen your grenades, and you "might" get your super sometime during the month :rolleyes:

    I'm not going to defend Bungie by any means but I "think" they are moving back in the right direction. At least I hope they are. I think they know they fucked up extremely bad and now it will just take some time to code everything back to the way it was in D1 lol.
     
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    I wonder why in the PC version of the game it always looks like the gameplay and your character are moving so much faster? Not talking about the video you posted, that dude obviously has some mad skills. I suppose it just looks faster because the framerate is uncapped as opposed to the console version is the only thing that I can think of?
     
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    Yea, he is uncapped frames on beast of a desktop.
    He can move even faster if he uses a macro, but he wont do that in pvp.
     
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    It's not just him. I mean the PC version of the game just looks faster than the console version. When I compare the two, the PC version is almost like night and day difference in gameplay speed. I'm pretty sure it's because the framerate is uncapped and can run whatever your machine is capable of. And I think being able to extend the FOV also plays a role in how much faster it looks. It "may" not be any faster but it sure looks like it is.
     
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    Im sure its faster, i cant move across a map like that on console.
     
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    Yeah me either
     
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    I hear that the latest update is a little better than what they have offered so far. I hope they do get back on track as lets be honest, depending on who you ask some believe their current antics rival EA.

    I agree though, after all the bullshit with D1 it did eventually evolve into a solid game from my friends. I gave up on D1 before the TTK drop as I just didn't care to invest anymore and trust in D1 at the time.

    Random topic, but Im listening to a vid talking about the plausibility of Bungie possibly signing with Microsoft although I question how they could get out of their activision deal since its for ten years right? I personally wouldn't want Bungie to return to Microsoft to get back into halo as I feel they have become a husk at best of what they used to be and their latest tactics would really set me off if it messed with halo. That said, I know Halo has had some off issues since 343 has taken over, but I applaud their efforts as I feel they are trying to be honest to a degree.
     
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    I agree with most everything you said. :thumbsup:

    Yes Bungie did fuck up with Eververse (microtransactions) and how you gain XP. Sometimes I think that these companies forget how smart some people are. Someone on reddit figured out that they were throttling your XP gains the more you played which lead most to think they did this to get you to buy into Eververse. Then there was the whole issue with The Dawning and how much it would take to actually get an entire set of armor (if you wanted it) etc... They were already in shit for releasing a shit game and then they tried to pull those things off. A little more than a month after the game released they had already lost over 75% of their original player base (I'll have to find the graph that showed that downward spiral) and they went into severe damage control.

    I blame Bungie and Activision equally. Activision forced Bungie to release the game on a specific date or Bungie would lose it's stock options. The game wasn't nearly ready for release but they released it anyway. In every trailer all they talked about was the "loot" we were going to get. But that turned out to be complete bullshit since they took random rolls away, took our ability to buy directly from the Vanguard, Crucible Master, or Faction Vendors, and the loot pool turned out to be so fucking small that you constantly deleted the same item over and over again.

    You don't have nearly the freedom to build your character the way you could in D1. Completely redesigning the weapon slots was one of the dumber decisions they made which lead to only a few auto rifles, sidearms, one submachine gun, and RL's being used in the Crucible. And speaking of the Crucible... the 4v4 format sucks. Stick together, team shoot, win. Simple. Now this IB is 6v6 being played on maps that were designed for 4v4 and it's pure chaos. Most every streamer that was popular in D1 has left and moved on to different games because there are no "grand" plays to be made. The ttk is so long in a 1v1 engagement and is over in the blink of an eye if team shot. There is no middle ground.

    My biggest complaint I suppose is the fact that they catered this game for casuals and completely left out the hard core players. You can reach max power level without ever stepping into any end game activity and if you belong to a clan, you can reap the rewards from others in your clan completing the raid or trials and never step foot in either of those activities. That's complete bullshit IMO.

    Now to where Bungie is stepping back in the right direction (hopefully). The Curse of Osiris wasn't a bad expansion and I really liked the idea of forging your own weapons. You give me something to grind for and I'll play until I get it. The roadmap they have laid out seems to be pretty solid but time will tell if players will forgive Bungie for this major fuckup of a game and actually come back and give it another chance. The difference between D1 and D2 was in D1 (even with a less than stellar launch) you always had something to chase after even after endgame. Not so in D2. Since everything is a static roll, once you have everything, what's the use in playing?

    I miss the Bungie of old. I grew up on Halo. Hell... I grew up on Goldeneye lol. And Halo in its heyday was a blast to play. And I agree with you that 343 is doing their best to keep that franchise alive. I'll always fall back on this statement... Bungie had the perfect foundation to build from with D1. All they had to do was just add to that formula but they scrapped almost everything that was good and left us with a shit game and no reason to play long term. Hopefully they will right the ship but now it's just a wait and see game.
     
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