Tacoma - OVTUNE - VFTUNER - Update Info and Original Development

That’s some major exaggeration. One would assume that you’re
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Exactly! I am hoping this is the case and I am just over analyzing like I tend to lol.

Has nothing to do with temperature buddy. These DO draw in hotter air. BUT.... The CAI eliminates the charcoal smog device attached to your intake hence the increased airflow. Tell me why the Dyno sheet provided is somehow not valid? I would love to hear lol

 

So are you implying they photo-shopped this Dyno printout or something? The guy at K&N I talked to on the phone said they had a lot of people making false accusations about their product so they ran the dyno and included the print out when you purchase one to kind of shut everyone up lol But hey if someone can prove with before/after dyno results that this is not true I will humbly apologize for spreading fake news

 

This guys gets it! Has nothing to do with air temp. Its air flow.

 

2016 Tacoma 3.5L automatic.

 

You forgot it has a smog canister for smog, very restrictive to air flow.

 

Your focusing on air temp not air flow my friend. The stock CAI has a big charcoal canister that is very restrictive. Look for yourself, its huge. The CAI offers gains because of increase airflow only. If anything it brings in hotter air.

 

I'm not actually sure that a stock vehicle can adjust fueling enough to gain 18hp without someone changing fuel tables

 

So then there's still not much of a point in upgrading. The difference is moot, no?. Either you bring in more hot air with the increased air flow or you bring in less air (stock) but it's cooler. The only huge advantage to the hotter air would be FI then, and you'll end up cooling that air with an intercooler anyway.

Not blatantly saying you're wrong at this point. Just rationalizing it

 

Tacoma need an inhaler?

 

This is a good point. I would also have my doubts that a stock ECU could make the adjustments without tuning. But I'm not an expert. Definitely curious though

 

Stock CAI = this . Almost any CAI without charcoal canister is like taking the pillow off your face. This is also the reason you cannot legally purchase a aftermarket CAI in California anymore UNLESS it is a model that has a charcoal filter built in. in that case...yes 100% pointless. But I removed the pillow so my truck can breathe a little better lol. I reall can feel the difference but honestly only up in high RPM's, not low end at all

 

That makes sense, and high rpm isn't exactly common for daily driving. I am still skeptical about the peak gains seen though. These are modern vehicles after all, it's not the early 90s anymore lol

 

Yeah I am a little skeptical, but part of me is saying ( Someone could sue K&N if they can prove its fake, so why would K&N be so bold as to blatantly lie or over exaggerate that? ) The risk does not seem worth the reward.

 

No expert here, and certainly no dog in the fight, but lets assume 5 or 10% more airflow,
From ambient temperature, to get 10% higher air density would correlate to only about 30deg Celsius drop in temperature. That doesn't seem like much. I would think the ECU/injectors/etc would be able to handle that, but certainly don't know.

 

Cute guys, you have manual transmissions and the tune makes it shift perfectly ? Thought most are not looking huh.

 

@TacoSauceHB if I am following what you are saying about the charcoal filter/chamber, just changing the intake pipe to a straight pipe without the filter is likely to yield some (many) of the gains seen with the K&N filter to to un-restricting the airflow?

If I have that correct, changing the pipe alone may get some or most of the gain at a lower cost to the end user (me).

 

You're the first person to comment on that, and potentially the first to notice as a result. There were direct comments made by people that weren't observant enough to notice lol assuming they weren't ignoring the shenanigans

 

I don't think it would be the first time that a company bets on their consumer base not doing research and not putting in the effort to prove them wrong. Just noting that bit is all.

 

Most of us were just ignoring the trolling, though I think a few new people missed it. Trolling new folks in a information thread is approaching Carlin levels of comedic genius, can't wait for the next installment...