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Press in Heim joints?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Huckshot, Apr 18, 2018.

  1. Apr 18, 2018 at 7:26 AM
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    Has anyone done a swap to a uniball style press in as a ball joint conversion on the ucas?

    Main Question:what size( press in )are our uca ball joints?as in how wide is the press in part of our ball joints?(2000 taco). I want to press out my ball joint on the stock spindle and replace with a press in style uni ball/heim joint

    Pic for example.

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  2. Apr 18, 2018 at 7:35 AM
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    Isn't a Heim joint just a smaller version of a ball joint? I'm not sure what the advantage of what you're thinking about would be.
     
  3. Apr 18, 2018 at 7:40 AM
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    A uni ball or heim rides in its own casing a ball joint does as well but puts its pressure against a spring inside.

    My main reason is to have an adjustable length on a more beafy stem to the uca and correct uca angle.
    Biggest question here is the width on our ball joints and has anyone pressed in their uniball joints here
     
  4. Apr 18, 2018 at 9:52 AM
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    I don't really understand your question. What is this "adjustable length" and "more beefy stem" you are talking about?

    The TC you posted is a uniball. They come with a plug that presses in to where the stock BJ mounts to the spindle, you then bolt the uniball with that giant bolt to the spindle/plug (see below) - the silver ring between the spindle and the bolt is that plug. Press it in the spindle, then a C-clip keeps it in place.

    Are you wanting to get new uni-ball UCAs to replace your stock balljoint/stock uca?

    If you want to correct your geometry (can't get it aligned) after lifting it, you don't actually NEED a uniball. There are other aftermarket UCAs (light racing, a few others...) that use BJs and are half the cost of total chaos, but have the proper geometry for a lifted application.

    balljoints actually have more articulation than uniballs, too.. Uniballs are just stronger.

     
  5. Apr 18, 2018 at 11:23 AM
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    I want to press in a uni ball in where the old ball joint is just like the uniball in the pic is pressed into the uca..im going to run a longer than stock and more heavy duty stud up to the uca to correct my uca angle from the lift..i dont know how else to say it..so anyone have an answer to the stock ball joint size?
     
  6. Apr 18, 2018 at 11:27 AM
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    And yes this is to fix the geometry but i want to be able to adjust the angle at any time without replacing main parts.i want my ucas to sit out nice and straight with no angles.

    Are you wanting to get new uni-ball UCAs to replace your stock balljoint/stock uca?

    If you want to correct your geometry (can't get it aligned) after lifting it, you don't actually NEED a uniball. There are other aftermarket UCAs (light racing, a few others...) that use BJs and are half the cost of total chaos, but have the proper geometry for a lifted application.
     
  7. Apr 18, 2018 at 11:27 AM
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    That's not pressed in. The UCA in your photo is specifically designed to work with that uniball.

    If you don't want to run ball joints, you need to buy aftermarket upper control arms.
     
  8. Apr 18, 2018 at 11:29 AM
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    I need the diameter of our stock ball joint to match with a press in style uniball such as this o e

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    This is not a press-in thing. The stock UCAs are not designed to accept a uniball.
     
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    If you're really set on trying something and are/know a competent fabricator, drop the $25 on a replacement upper ball joint and take some measurements.
     
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    In other words what is the press in sides bore size?
     
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    That pic is just a reference for what im talking about. Im aware thats a built in aftermarket uni ball but they also make press in uniballs that you can get in the same diameter as the bj bore on the spindle. Im pretty confident in this fab set up im doing. Im going to run a couple spot welds on the cup to the spindle as well for extra hold once pressed in. Then im going to run a longer and more beefy stem such as a grade 8 to the uca
     
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    As stated you CAN NOT PRESS IN UNI BALLS INTO A BALL JOINT SPOT, its just not happening, even if you managed to make it work its not going to correct your geometry, after market ucas are designed differently then stock ones to correct geometry, i think they move the ball joint farther out and slightly back more (someone correct me if im wrong) just simply swaping to uni balls wont do anything.
     
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    I dont think you guys understand what im talking about.and yes they make many press in uni balls for converting.a longer stem is going to bring the ucas back above higher to stock angle and reason i dont want to use a bj with a longer stem is i cant adjust it to an exact measurement on the stem and uniballs are alot more solid
     
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    Have you even taken off the spacer lift and adjusted your 5100 yet
     
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    Adjusted shocks and dropped the diff.all other angles are good now except my spindle is against the springs and uca angle.the uniballs will set me right where it needs to be..all i need to know is the bore size..
     
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    :frusty:I think i got more questions back here than the only answer i came for...when someone knows the bore size please let me know.ty:drunk:
     
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    You're literally the only person trying this. Go to your local auto parts store, ask to look at the replacement stock ball joint, measure with your micrometer, and tell them "Thank you." Zero money out of pocket.

    Otherwise, drop $25 and have Amazon send you one so you can fiddle with it from the comfort of your couch.
     

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