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Cold Air Intakes. Debunking false claims.

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by TacoSauceHB, Apr 18, 2018.

  1. Apr 18, 2018 at 8:48 PM
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    07taco

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    Just get this and a K&N filter and call it a day. Autoanything.com sells them.

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  2. Apr 18, 2018 at 9:01 PM
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    I will never use oiled filters again in my truck. If Toyota thought they were better, they would have put one in the truck. They do not offer better flow, it's been proven over oem filteres. The tube I like but I would use a oem filter instead
     
  3. Apr 18, 2018 at 9:07 PM
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    I see where your coming from. The problem is people just take the oem filter out and put the K&N filter in. You have to wipe it down and you’ll be ok. I’ve used plenty of them on past vehicles with no issues. I’ve had this one on for about 3k miles and not issues.
     
  4. Apr 19, 2018 at 12:05 AM
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    This right here. ^^^^ Maybe taking out the resonator might help but not enough to notice or possibly even consistently measure. Taking out the charcoal filter maybe increase maximum airflow but at what cost.

    Plenty of myths out there till someone does the work to prove it. I know there’s that video that debunked the smashed headers reduced horsepower. They tested it several times smashing more and more each time. Difference was negligible. I would say same for the intake unless engine is heavily modded and has the ecu tuned to match new larger air flow requirement.
     
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  5. Apr 19, 2018 at 12:18 AM
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    No issues running K&N filter on a cold air pan set up on my drag race car . This particular filter only lost 3hp


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  6. Apr 19, 2018 at 12:20 AM
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    https://youtu.be/azPKIjxmmdU
     
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  7. Apr 19, 2018 at 12:36 AM
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  8. Apr 19, 2018 at 12:48 AM
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    Were the dents causing a venturi effect in the exhaust? Could the same happen in the intake? Or is the intake on a Tacoma open enough that a little restriction doesn't matter?
     
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  9. Apr 19, 2018 at 12:54 AM
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    Those crushed tubes never slowed down the exh pulses or even caused any back pressure

    Look at the other vid I posted about the air cleaner dyno session , all the K&N filters had excellent results and some even made more hp
     
  10. Apr 19, 2018 at 12:58 AM
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    You gonna put a salad bowl on the Camaro?:D
     
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    I just use a Velocity stack !! :thumbsup:
     
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  12. Apr 19, 2018 at 1:20 AM
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    As for dyno time for our CAI debacle why not ask Steve Brule at Westech Perf ?? :notsure:

    They're located in Mira Loma Ca
     
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  13. Apr 19, 2018 at 2:05 AM
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    How about this

    If someone wants to spend $300 on a CAI and add 1-2 hp and have a cool sound, then let em. It’s their money they are throwing in the garbage.

    OP, you do realize that peoples post on here in no way effect your ability to buy or not buy a CAI? Why does some keyboard warrior’s post bother you? Live your life man!!! Please don’t spend your money on a dyno run to prove someone something.
     
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  14. Apr 19, 2018 at 4:03 AM
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    Exactly. Buy what you want. Enjoy.
     
  15. Apr 19, 2018 at 7:02 AM
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    Do some CAIs inprove performance? Yes. Some CAI kits will improve performace. Depends on the manufacturer, model of kit and vehicle.

    Do some CAIs do nothing performance wise? Yes. Some CAI will do absolutely nothing or even hurt performance. Depends manufacturer, model of kit and vehicle.

    Is dyno testing for such minimal gains, the end all be all? No. Even dyno pulls on the same vehicle / same mods / same day vary 10+/- hp and tq.

    Moral of the story, do your research, pick wisely, enjoy what you buy.
     
  16. Apr 19, 2018 at 7:27 AM
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    That is why I want one of these:
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  18. Apr 19, 2018 at 7:41 AM
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    I too agree with other that this thread is a bunch of mumbo jumbo.

    I agree with you, but just know that the TRD filter you can buy is oiled.


    Hey OP...Hop on the dyno and get us some real proof!
     
  19. Apr 19, 2018 at 7:42 AM
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    Conclusions from this scientific research:
    "1. During partial load operation, brake thermal efficiency is not affected by the variation in limit spark advance at full load operation
    2. During full load operation, lower intake air temperature increases intake air mass. Also break thermal efficiency is improved because spark ignition timing can be advanced. For those reasons, higher IMEP can be obtained with lower intake air temperature.
    3. A combination of a lower cooling water temperature for the cylinder head and higher cooling water temperature for the cylinder block increases brake thermal efficiency because of lower friction loss and advanced ignition timing."
     
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  20. Apr 19, 2018 at 7:54 AM
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    Coming from a performance automotive background, I don't think any of these very reputable manufacture claims are false. One factor to think about is the way modern PCMs work. It pretty much all based of off load targeting, making it difficult to make any more to the wheels without changing said targets. That being said, if you increase efficiency in the formula(installing an intake), you could make more power to same load target. I've found real world road testing(acceleration and actual fuel usage) should be used to gauge how well a mod is working.
     

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