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Long Travel BS Thread

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by amaes, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. Apr 30, 2018 at 8:01 PM
    raco.the.taco

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    Thanks for the heads up! Hopefully I can hear from him before I start welding. I will see if your contacts have any info that can help.
     
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  2. Apr 30, 2018 at 8:04 PM
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    is the kit completely weld on?
    if it is DM and i can tell you what i told dalandser about the giant 64 kit install.
     
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  3. Apr 30, 2018 at 8:13 PM
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    share for all of us. im hear to learn not judge.
     
  4. Apr 30, 2018 at 8:17 PM
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    heres the short version.

    Parts:
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    rear hangars
    shackles
    springs
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    hardware

    Setting Springs:
    remove all the stock stuff. bolt on only.
    measure stock springs; axle pin to front bushing. center-line to center-line
    measure new springs; axle pin to front bushing. center-line to center-line
    mark the current center line of the front hangar. scribe the line. DO NOT use pen; scribe
    scribe another line as follows: new spring measurement - old spring measurement - .25" (or .5") forward of first scribe
    cut off old hangar.
    locate and tack new hangar.
    do this one side at a time.
    break down the new leafs.
    mount leaf (the main one) to front hangar
    compress the leaf against the frame until flat
    mount shackle to leaf
    mount shackle mount to shackle
    let mount touch off top of the frame
    tack shackle mount into location
    let the suspension droop out, do not pull the spring down
    measure spring to frame
    subtract axle tube diameter and net spring perch height. this is your total travel.
    confirm shackle is at 90 deg to the frame
    if the shackle swings forward, measure difference. use trig if needed
    cut tacks and move shackle mount forward this distance.
    cycle suspension till flat again
    move onto pinion angle

    when everything is correct burn spring mounts in
    repeat on other side

    Pinion Angle:
    slide axle onto perches and springs. install u bolts and u bolt plates. use wood/square stock to make spring near assembled thickness
    bolt on driveshaft
    confirm driveshaft isnt bottomed out. .25" is enough. even .125" is enough though a bit close
    if drive shaft is bottoming, move front perches back to prevent this. repeat above, again
    set pinion 3 or 4 deg below driveshaft
    cycle suspension to middle, measure angles again
    cycle to bump, measure angles again
    confirm everything is good
    adjust pinion at droop as required
    pinion should be equal to or below driveshaft, always
    tack perches when satisfied
    cycle again with everything tacked

    Welding:
    Weld in front mounts
    recycle
    weld in shackle mounts
    recycle
    weld in perches
    recycle

    Setting Bump:
    cycle till leafs are flat. this is after all mounts are set and pinion is too
    if clearance to frame permits, go 1 ish inches higher
    place and tack bump mount flat at max compression
    depressurize bumps
    put bumps in cans and place perpendicular to bump pads
    measure and build bump can mounts

    Setting Shocks:
    depressurize shocks
    collapse shocks to rubber bump pads, no further
    install lower shock mounts
    pick where you want to mount them. try not to go lower than the bottom of the axle tube
    tack mounts
    shocks can angle a bit. mine at 15 deg at bump. 7 at droop. 16" shock pulling over 17" travel

    Bed Cage:
    this is up to you
    shocks may protrude above bedline if mounted higher on axle tube

    Droop:
    droop suspension
    pick limit strap location
    adjust 1" per 12" of limit strap up from bottom out
    order parts accordingly

    that the short of it
     
  5. Apr 30, 2018 at 8:19 PM
    SanClemTaco

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    granted the above is for first gens, if its a tension shackle keep the leaf pack whole and jack it up until the shackle hangar touches off on the frame and move it back 1.5-2". this preloads the leaf and prevents the leafs from splaying out at droop.

    i can go into more detail is there are questions
     
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  6. Apr 30, 2018 at 8:39 PM
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    I’ve been giving it a lot of thought and decided I’m just going to save the money and get a switch pro.
     
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  7. Apr 30, 2018 at 10:07 PM
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    I love 5.29s. So awesome in the dirt.

    Pretty sure most ads piggy backs are lower mount as well.

    Why? You can GE pre wired buss man's for cheap. Easily less than half a switch pro.
     
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  8. Apr 30, 2018 at 10:15 PM
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    good info. I hope to do my own work someday.
     
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  9. Apr 30, 2018 at 10:18 PM
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    There nice but pricey.
     
  10. May 1, 2018 at 4:51 AM
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    Yeah. Not cheap but the same price as the polyperformance ones. Plus I’m going to order new seats too so I’ll have some leverage to work the price down.
     
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  11. May 1, 2018 at 5:01 AM
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    Yeah I’ve been looking at those too. And the larger buss man with the 10 instead of the 5. What’s making me lean toward the switch pro is that it’s a lot cleaner set up. But I’m always changing my mind. By the time I have the money I might change it again. Who knows. :anonymous:
     
  12. May 1, 2018 at 6:50 AM
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    I wouldn't get a 10 relay buss man. They are only rated for 80 amps total. With a 5 relay one you can have 5 relayed circuits and 5 fused circuits. That'll get you to 80 amps easily.

    If you need more grab another 5 relay one. Plus then you can mount one up front and one in the rear without wires going everywhere
     
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  14. May 1, 2018 at 7:59 AM
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    Vehicle Modifications: TACOMA 2007 FRONT TOTAL CHAOS 5LUG ,LONG TRAVEL KIT 13" OF TRAVEL KING COIL OVER (550 POUND SPRING RATE) (18 INCH COIL) REAR BED CAGE 16" SMOOTH BODY FOX SHOCKS 2.5 2.0 / 2.5 BUMP STOPS FOX ICON ADD LEAF PACK WITH OEM SPRING 11" OF TRAVEL TRUCK COMES SPRING UNDER BY MANUFACTURE TOYOTA REGEAR TO 4.0 WITH AUBURN UNIT ENGINE 2TR-FE WITH AFE COLD AIR IN TAKE DOUG THORLEY HEADER MAGNAFLOW EXHAUST TIRE S NEW KO2 32/11.5 METHOD RIM 15" WITH -20MM OFF SET

    http://www.chaosfab.com/2005-2015-Tacoma-Mid-Travel-Rear-Suspension-Kit-86450HD

    they have a spring-Under Installation Instructions on their kit might help out a lil bet
     
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    Oh ok. Didn’t know about that with the 10’s. We’ll see once I’m ready. I know those are pretty easy to build too. But not sure how secure those wires sit inside the housing. I know others have siliconed the back sides. I just don’t want shit wiggling loose. Then I’m chasing wires for days.
     
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  16. May 1, 2018 at 8:20 AM
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    That's the main reason I went with a Switchpro. I didn't have any storage areas that I could sacrifice to put in the rockers to run a Bussman, otherwise I would have gone that route and built my own.

     
  18. May 1, 2018 at 10:03 AM
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    just to give him a idea thats all ...
     
  19. May 2, 2018 at 7:51 AM
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    FYSA Selling the 05-15 4x4 Camburg kit that just came off my truck. Bought it in ‘16, about 10,000 miles on the kit. Heim Uppers, 4x4 axles, Fox coilovers and triple bypasses, oem steering rack, gusseted spindles, TRD Sport Stock 8.4 read end all for sale. Hit me up via PM for price. More pics in my build thread and the long travel classifieds thread

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  20. May 2, 2018 at 7:54 AM
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    @jeff b get this !!!!!!! and sell you'r old stuff
     

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