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First CEL: P0420 Throwing Cat Code after Y-Pipe Install

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Dirty Harry, May 2, 2018.

  1. May 2, 2018 at 8:00 AM
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    Dirty Harry

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    So its happened. I purposely asked URD about this prior to purchasing and installing their URD Y-pipe. I'm gonna double check my downstream 02 sensors and the crush washers tonight to make sure everything is sealed tight, but I'm a little bummed.
     
  2. May 2, 2018 at 8:06 AM
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    Might have to fake it out.

     
  3. May 2, 2018 at 8:11 AM
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    Non foulers? I didn't watch the video but they worked for me on other cars. Be aware though, use a bunch of never seize because they like to stick to the sensor real good.
     
  4. May 2, 2018 at 8:17 AM
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  5. May 2, 2018 at 8:23 AM
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    I've had the URD Ypipe for almost a year now and never threw a code.

    Did you just install it? Hopefully when you double check everything it turns out okay.
     
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  6. May 2, 2018 at 8:34 AM
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    I did install it. I was pretty careful, but I'm gonna check all the fasteners today after work to be sure. So far I've notice better MPGs, but a little bit of a raspy/rattle noise in first gear. I have a hunch that one of the doughnut washers could have slipped when I was torquing everything down.
     
  7. May 2, 2018 at 8:40 AM
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    Do you have an aftermarket intake? I noticed that the code popped up when I romped on the throttle to merge onto the highway, so the code was thrown probably at peak emissions levels.
     
  8. May 2, 2018 at 8:54 AM
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    I just have a K&N filter and the TRD flow accelerator that attached from intake to the wheel well.
     
  9. May 2, 2018 at 9:00 AM
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    Gotcha, I wouldn't think it would make much of a difference, but I was just curious.
     
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  10. May 2, 2018 at 9:25 AM
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    You must have a bad connection or something. I have the SpecU system with 2 less cats and no CEL.

    Also ovtune and TRD intake.
     
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  11. May 2, 2018 at 9:53 AM
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    Check for exhaust leaks upstream of or near the O2 sensors. An exhaust leak can suck in air as the low pressure tail-end of the exhaust gas pulse passes the leak-making the sensor monitor think the cats are bad because of too much oxygen in the exhaust gasses...
     
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  12. May 2, 2018 at 10:43 AM
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    This was my fear.
     
  13. May 2, 2018 at 10:55 AM
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    When I installed my cat back I took a shop vacuum and wrapped tape around the nozzle. I then plugged it into the tailpipe. I felt for suction in the piping. All clear...no burns. Then I started the engine an felt for hot spots.

    My wife I should have used some baby powder in a bowl to see if the powder would have bee sucked up like Scarface. lol

    My concern would be baby powder in the exhaust.
     
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    ive had mine on for couple weeks now and 500 miles later have 0 issues
     
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    I'm willing to get a sensor or wiring got damaged during installation. I don't think an exhaust leak would cause a secondary cat CEL
     
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    It is one of the more common causes, though the reason for same is a bit counter-intuitive. The catalytic converters absorb/store oxygen as part of their normal functioning, making the oxygen content of the post-cat gasses low. As stated above lower (than ambient) pressure "tail" of the exhaust gas pulse¹ will draw fresh air into the exhaust system and raise it's oxygen content--the monitoring system expects a lower O2 content and pitches a fit when it doesn't see that....

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    ¹ - the exhaust stream is not a continuous flow,but rather a series of pulses as each cylinder spews it's spent charge. Each pulse has a definitive mass and structure with a higher than ambient pressure "head", a near ambient pressure "body" and a lower than ambient pressure "tail" (it is this lower pressure tail which is exploited in "tuned exhausts" to "scavenge" the cylinder and suck in more new air/fuel charge than plain ol' manifold vacuum would on its own.
     
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    Well I'll be honest, I was super careful with how I removed the sensors, but then I used anti-seize when mounting them to the URD because they had already corroded/rusted onto the stock y-pipe. Some of the anti-seize got onto the sensors and I had to scrub it off.

    Perhaps that caused the sensor(s) to fail?
     
  18. May 3, 2018 at 1:07 AM
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    That would do it--click here for more than you probably want to know about PZ O2 sensors...
     
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    UPDATE: I cleared the code with a scanner after work and it hasn't come back. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    I'm still going to take a look this weekend and install the foulers. Better safe than sorry.
     
  20. May 3, 2018 at 7:09 AM
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    can take up to couple hundred miles for it to come back on
     

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