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Long Travel BS Thread

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by amaes, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. May 4, 2018 at 8:53 AM
    dillonk1602

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    ya i have talked to pat before about that kit he said it wouldn't work but i cant get around on why it would just bolt right in because Im already spring under and if the defined kit can work then why cant theirs you know :frusty:
     
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  2. May 4, 2018 at 8:54 AM
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    Unfortunately, good ol Pat is the man to answer that and can likely give you better clarity on the distinction about why you wont be compatible. At the same time, Pat is generally pretty good about offering a solution if he is aware of any.
     
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  3. May 4, 2018 at 8:55 AM
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    i for got that this is @snowsk8air2 truck haha
     
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  4. May 4, 2018 at 8:57 AM
    dillonk1602

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    look like there no going around it just got to save and do dmz all the way or links or maybe f67 with drop shackle
     
  5. May 4, 2018 at 9:00 AM
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    Pretty sure Defined, TC and Archive springs are all same part#'s from Deaver.
     
  6. May 4, 2018 at 9:01 AM
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    Honestly you will be happier you did...wont see the real potential in your front without a solid rear.

    Guys like me learned the hard way.
     
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  7. May 4, 2018 at 9:08 AM
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    Deaver prints different part numbers on the springs but I cant confirm or deny that they are the same. I switched between a tc pack and defined pack and noticed no difference
     
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  8. May 4, 2018 at 10:18 AM
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    I'm not sure that you have grasped what I am saying, your front WMS to WMS changes and is different from truck to truck even between trucks with stock arms due to different lift heights. Two trucks with identical suspension may have different from WMS to WMS if one truck is lifted a bit more than the other. Check out these sketches, the top truck with level LCA's vs the bottom truck that has been lifted and as the lca goes down it pulls the WMS inward. So, if ofr example you are trying to find the right width rear axle or figure out what rear spacers you'll want etc you need to measure the front WMS of exactly what you intend to end up with or you risk ending up with your rear end wider than the front becasue you didn't account for this factor. This is an extreme example but the bottom truck would have a 6" narrower WMS-WMS than the top truck :

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  9. May 4, 2018 at 10:45 AM
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    Yes I grasp the fact that there are differences from truck to truck but from the factory they have a standard width. Each truck sent out on the line has to meet certain measurements or something is wrong. Toyota isnt going to just put out truck with a width varying from 60" to 70" (for example) they have constraints. Which is why the 66"ish would be a correct statement because they have to stay within tolerances, making all trd's XX"ish all prerunners XX"ish and all x-runners XX"ish. So to reiterate my or rephrase my question what is the "ISH" wms - wms measurement for the front.
     
  10. May 4, 2018 at 10:52 AM
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    well... I hope your "ish-ing" yields the correct end results of whatever it is that you are planning. I personally enjoy looking at all of the trucks that got it wrong and end up wider in the rear than the front :thumbsup:
     
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  11. May 4, 2018 at 11:01 AM
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    Thats one thing im trying to avoid which is why im getting measurements before I order.
     
  12. May 4, 2018 at 11:15 AM
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    snowsk8air2 how hard can it be?

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    can you just measure your front and see what it is? Sorry I missed a few pages so don't really know what you're trying to do?
     
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  14. May 4, 2018 at 11:17 AM
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    I could but I was just trying to avoid that if someone already had the answer.
     
  15. May 4, 2018 at 11:27 AM
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    Well what're you trying to use the info for?
     
  16. May 4, 2018 at 11:33 AM
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    Thank you sir!
     
  17. May 4, 2018 at 11:34 AM
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    just let it go...let it go...
     
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    whats going on haha
     
  19. May 4, 2018 at 11:42 AM
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    Why is that?
     
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