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"Rust" spots on black 2017 SR5 DCSB (won't scrape off)

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Marconis, May 5, 2018.

  1. May 5, 2018 at 1:34 PM
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    Marconis

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    Picked up a new black 2017 SR5 DCSB in December 2017. Washed her today and noticed all these little rusted looking specs all over the paint, mostly along the bottoms of the doors. Some are up by the hood and near the bed. I can't scrape the "rust" out and it almost feels like it is underneath and is smooth to the touch. Any ideas? I know there were a few threads around here and people mentioned rail dust but this doesn't seem like it's coming off. It's pretty noticeable when clean...which it isn't clean often. This truck also scratches like a mother...you can rub your finger on it and boom, swirl mark.

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  2. May 5, 2018 at 1:44 PM
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    I would start with a doing a thorough clay barring of the paint, taking your time and feeling the paint after a few passes. Use a lot of spray wax to keep the surface wet and use microfiber towels to polish. Knead the clay periodically to keep the leading surface clear of debris.

    If that doesn't work, I'd take it to a qualified detailer who can use a buffer and some compound to "cut" the top coat and smooth out the finish.

    I think the clay will be sufficient though. When done, make sure to wax the entire truck and buff to a shine.

    Good luck.
     
  3. May 5, 2018 at 1:53 PM
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    Hope you didn't try scrapping it off to hard...Black tracks/car suck when it comes to detailing. And yes it's just iron fall out. Really depends where you live as how much of this will be on your paint.

    You can try a clay bar, but physical "decontamination" will scratch your paint especially if it's black. If your going this route your gonna have to polish/buff it.

    Other option is pick up any chemical decontaimtion such as carpro Iron X, let it sit for 5 min, powerwash it off or Just do a regular wash after 5 min then rinse it off really well.
     
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  4. May 5, 2018 at 1:57 PM
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    Just tried scraping with my fingernail. When it felt flush, I gave up. Is it detrimental to the paint to leave these sitting on it? Or just forget about it? Seems like it'll be a constant effort.
     
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    If you don't care about your trucks appeareance it fine. Plenty of people don't go the extra mile of detailing their trucks becuase "it's a truck" 2-3 years from now if you wanted to address the issue it can be dealt with.
     
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  7. May 5, 2018 at 2:10 PM
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    Well, it is a lease after all (wish I bought it, actually). Maybe I'll just get it detailed once or twice a year and see if that takes care of it .There are probably hundreds of these on the paint...wouldn't even know where to start. It did startle me, though, and was worried they would start eating away at my paint like the langoliers.
     
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  8. May 5, 2018 at 2:13 PM
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    It's likely to be rail dust. The suggestion to clay the truck should remove them, but follow the instructions carefully. Depending on how close you live to active RR tracks, it may come back. What you are probably seeing is the rail dust from the trucks transport via rail from the factory to the distribution center. It takes a few months before it shows.

    I plan to clay my truck as soon as the weather cooperates and I get a few other things done to her. Not sure if I'll Zaino this one or not. Lots of work to apply initially and it usually works best, shine wise, with dark colors, but it does provide great paint protection as well, and you don't have to apply it as often as you should wax. It was an awesome shine on my black '09 gen2. I only cleaned the truck once every couple months or so, but every time I cleaned it that shine would come right back. Once a year I re-applied a coat, but that was about it.
     
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  9. May 5, 2018 at 2:25 PM
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    I live 1.5 miles north of an active train station. At work, I park about 200 yards from an elevated track. Thanks for the input. Never really noticed this on any of my other vehicles...but I think for this one I'm overly paranoid because I want to get out of a perpetual lease cycle once and for all 30 months from now and not have to owe them anything for any kind of bullshit (was 14,000 miles over on my last one due to a change in commute and was basically forced into a new lease).
     
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    Thank you for the input!
     
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    Wait - isnt it under warranty? Why not ask your dealer to cover the cost of treating it? Just saying...
     
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    Why would toyota cover this at all? This happens to all makes and models.
     
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  13. May 5, 2018 at 5:47 PM
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    Why not? My last thee white toyotas never had it...
     
  14. May 5, 2018 at 5:48 PM
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    Then you don't live in an area that doesn't have a lot of iron fall out....

    OP said he lives close to an active railroad
     
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    If it is indeed rail dust, it seems every car can get it. Does it normally feel flush to the touch? That's my only concern is that it feels to be one with the paint.
     
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    I'm 99% sure it is...and yes it bonds to your paint just like any other dirt debris. If you don't maintain your paint things will bond tonthe paint. That's why clay bars and chemical decons exists.
     
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    LOL, don't you live in the desert? I'm willing to bet if you took your white truck to the coast for a while you'd see it.

    It's just iron particles from trains. It's not a defect, it's just dirty. He stated he lived near tracks and a station so it's worse than it probably was when he got it. And it will probably come back unless he moves.

    Clean it with Dawn, clay it carefully with lots of soapy water/liquid wax/whatever, treat it (wax, etc) and move on.
     
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    I thought it was from transporting the vehicle on a truck or railroad where iron filings dropped on the truck prior to delivey, but you are saying its from iron dust in the air? Yeah, we live in a dusty area, but not in an area with a lot of iron or related industry. In that case I agree, it wouldnt be Toyota’s fault.
     
  19. May 5, 2018 at 6:01 PM
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    I agree with this minus the dawn. You don't need that for such a small project to rid of the problem. Dawn is good for some old ass paint. His truck is new.

    Traveled 600 miles in rainy conditions and behind other cars and rusty ass trucks. All you need is an iron fall out remover...video is attached below. I had those rusty specs as well as I tried power washing it off originally. Took it somewhere else with better coverage so I could spray it down with Iron X. Let it sit for 7-8 min or tonthe point it doesn't dry and power wash it off. Back to clean paint.

    Purple is the contaminants it's dissolving. In this case the iron fall out.

    https://youtu.be/AMeTau0sNaA
     
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    Yes its dry here. I can see where this happens when a car sits in a delivery yard with iron dust on it, particularly in a moist environment? Interesting- havent experienced that before, or even thought about it. Learning more about car related stuff here every day.
     
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