Unsafe throttle response when using cruise control?

So does the pedal not move during cruise control? Sounds like the pedal itself resets to "zero" when you let it off. Some vehicles if you have your foot resting on the pedal and accelerate or resume cruise control and let the cruise control do the work you should feel the pedal sink away from your foot, because its using the pedal to go faster. It may be as stated just a fly by wire type thing where the pedal itself is not being moved by the cruise control. So when you are going 60mph, and hit the cruise control, then you let off the pedal the pedal is probably resetting to normal no throttle position. Then when when you push the gas to try to go faster you have to push all the way to the "60 mph" mark, and then push further to go faster. Which is giving a huge dead zone feeling until you push the pedal farther than cruise is currently going

 

Yes, agree with this as well. My other vehicles when set on cruise, and a throttle response was needed response immediately, no delays no dead space.

Is that too much to ask for or expect?

Look guys not looking for an argument or a lesson on driving, just is this an issue with your trucks? This resetting to normal leaves a huge dead space that could lead to an accident is all i'm stating, thanks.

 

Tacoma's have had throttle by wire for the past 15 years, you just have to adjust to the powerband being at high RPMs

 

The pedal for sure resets to 0. Older non drive by wire cars were not like this. Cruise was a mechanical control of the pedal so it would do as OP expected. Any throttle applied would be in addition to cruise because if cruise was set at 70 and 30% throttle the pedal would physically be at 30% throttle. Drive by wire is different. When you set cruise it's done all electronically and the pedal just rests at 0 even if throttle is actually at 30%. You must take up the slack to apply additional throttle. This is not specific to Toyota's or Tacoma's. It's how all drive by wire cars work.

 

This is interesting. I am not sure exactly how the cruise control works on the 2nd gen, and am now wondering if its similar or the same (as 3rd gen). I am going to have to test this.

 

Ding ding ding ding ding. We have a winner!

OP Try using S4 mode when you want to pass and upshift manually. You'll be amazed at how fast this truck is.

 

I'm assuming your other vehicles were not drive by wire. In which case your experience was to be expected. What you are experiencing in your 3rd gen Tacoma is normal behavior for all drive by wire cars which is 99% of modern vehicles.

 

Mine seems to do better in s5 on cc. I only use 6th gear if there is no wind and no "hills", which is never

 

Hate to say it, but you need to look at the Orange Virus tune. My '18 had these same issues. No more. Use the 91+ octane tune (if you can afford the increased price at the pump), and you'll forget that this truck is lethargic in its stock form.

 

My 2013 Pathfinder claims to be the first or one of the first drive by wire vehicles manufactured and it smooth and seamless in driving.

And when cruise is set if and when needed I get an immediate throttle response.

 

Been looking and have read all of the nearly 900 pages wow! Just not at a good financial spot, found termites in my home on this past Saturday, Cinco De Mayo day and my Birthday. So what extra's I have will be going to an unexpected remodel, lol.

 

And I hate the thought of having to spend an additional $800 dollars (and its worth it) for a brand new $38,000 - $43,000 truck, just so it drive like any other vehicle.

 

Drive by wire has been around since 1988 in BMW's 7 series.

Your pathfinder is a VQ35 into a CVT transmission. Apples to oranges comparison. I admit I really don't know how cruise works with a CVT. I would expect it to be the same but it's possible it's not with respect to the pedal slack take up while in cruise.

Acceleration on the other hand is expected to be quite different. CVT doesn't downshift like the Tacoma has to and there's no doubt the Tacoma is set up such that you have to really get into the gas to make it downshift.

 

Nissan made a false claim saying that, it has been on Tacoma's since around 2003.

 

Hear hear!!!

I’m glad I don’t have to pay an additional $800 to “fix” a problem(s) that doesn’t exist on my Taco. It gets moving very well without having to pound on the gas pedal. Crazy to hear all these accounts that state otherwise.

 

Completely understand. It was a hard pill to swallow, but I viewed it like putting new wheels or tires on. The only difference is that no one else can "see" this mod.

If you happen to find someone else that lives near you that has the required hardware, you can purchase an additional license for $325 (I believe that's the price; don't quote me).

 

I was wrong about being first or one of the first throttle drive by wire, they been doing it for a while. But I had skimmed this article title and the full context is about "drive" by wires no direct steering linkage...nissan-will-put-drive-by-wire-in-2013-cars-13818193

 

I have no idea what others are talking about here, what OP is describing should not be happening at all. I went from a 2002 to my 2017, push the accelerator and get instant acceleration, while in cruise control or not. Not sure why he kept going back to same dealer either though, sounds like they weren’t much help at all the first time. Ok, carry on.

 

Dude, this is the way your truck, and all other Tacomas, are designed. Look at the torque curve, it shows it! These guys are not "patronizing" you. They have no reason! Several guys are telling you how it is, yet you choose not to believe it. That's your problem as they have nothing to gain.

The truth is, our trucks have plenty of power, but you have to give it the gas to find it. Your description in your post puts the vehicle right at it's most efficient RPM, but also a very low torque. As you are s l o w l y accelerating, you are doing nothing but keeping it in the same gear. Kick it in the ass, it will upshift and go!

Kinda hard to believe, you come here and post about your perceived problem, the service manager and other Tacoma owners tell you they are all like that, yet you want to argue they are wrong.

It is not a design flaw. It is designed for efficiency. Simply give it the gas and now you have power and less efficiency. You cannot have both at the same time.

Just curious, what did you drive before this?

 

He is barely pushing the accelerator and keeping it in the same gear. Similar to me keeping my truck in 6th gear and expecting exciting results when I push the pedal. Not going to happen unless I downshift to 5th or, even better, 4th gear.

Wonder if he knows both 5th and 6th are both overdrive gears?